auntie doris 2,345 Posted October 9, 2018 Great achievement by Woffy. Never seen so much national press coverage of the sport, even in the Mail and Independent. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,115 Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, iainb said: The poles have only been number 1 twice in the history of the sport... Not true. "A Pole" has only been number one twice, but as a nation, "the Poles" have been number 1 thirteen times. If you think I am splitting hairs, then you try convincing everyone that Britain is the strongest speedway nation currently... Steve Edited October 9, 2018 by chunky 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,058 Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, chunky said: If you think I am splitting hairs, then you try convincing everyone that Britain is the strongest speedway nation currently... Steve That's Russia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,115 Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, iainb said: That's Russia Ah, okay! So Britain is the SECOND strongest speedway nation, then? Steve Edited October 9, 2018 by chunky 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,058 Posted October 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, chunky said: Ah, okay! So Britain is the SECOND strongest speedway nation, then? Steve You got it... Clue was in the title, Speedway of Nations Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,058 Posted October 9, 2018 And in the Poles own back yard, lead by Britain's greatest ever speedway rider! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, iainb said: And in the Poles own back yard, lead by Britain's greatest ever speedway rider! Rosco? Surely not. Edited October 10, 2018 by Aces51 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midland Red 2,383 Posted October 11, 2018 Personally, I don't think Woffinden is the best ever British rider, in the same way that I don't see Lewis Hamilton as the best ever British racing driver They both have access to machinery far and away ahead in terms of performance of that which the likes of Craven, Crutcher, Brett, Boocock N, Carter, Loram, Betts etc / Hawthorn, Collins, Moss, Surtees, Hill (father & son) etc could even dream of Woffinden is the best in 2018, of that I have little doubt, but comparison with those from the past is almost impossible to gauge 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatface 2,557 Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Midland Red said: Personally, I don't think Woffinden is the best ever British rider, in the same way that I don't see Lewis Hamilton as the best ever British racing driver They both have access to machinery far and away ahead in terms of performance of that which the likes of Craven, Crutcher, Brett, Boocock N, Carter, Loram, Betts etc / Hawthorn, Collins, Moss, Surtees, Hill (father & son) etc could even dream of Woffinden is the best in 2018, of that I have little doubt, but comparison with those from the past is almost impossible to gauge I think you are right to see parallels with Woffinden and Hamilton. Both made it to the top the hard way, both have been World Champion more than any other Brit in their sport and - for whatever reason - both their successes stick in the craw of some of the more "traditional" supporters in their sports. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted October 12, 2018 14 hours ago, Midland Red said: Personally, I don't think Woffinden is the best ever British rider, in the same way that I don't see Lewis Hamilton as the best ever British racing driver They both have access to machinery far and away ahead in terms of performance of that which the likes of Craven, Crutcher, Brett, Boocock N, Carter, Loram, Betts etc / Hawthorn, Collins, Moss, Surtees, Hill (father & son) etc could even dream of Woffinden is the best in 2018, of that I have little doubt, but comparison with those from the past is almost impossible to gauge But the the likes of Carter and Collins always had access to top equipment, certainly the equal of their main rivals. Let's face it some of those you have named are nowhere near the quality of Tai 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillipsr 2,057 Posted October 12, 2018 20 hours ago, Midland Red said: Personally, I don't think Woffinden is the best ever British rider, in the same way that I don't see Lewis Hamilton as the best ever British racing driver They both have access to machinery far and away ahead in terms of performance of that which the likes of Craven, Crutcher, Brett, Boocock N, Carter, Loram, Betts etc / Hawthorn, Collins, Moss, Surtees, Hill (father & son) etc could even dream of Woffinden is the best in 2018, of that I have little doubt, but comparison with those from the past is almost impossible to gauge so does his rivals... not sure what the point is here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,672 Posted October 12, 2018 When you see the difference in performance between some rider's and 'Polish Power' it's quite miraculous that Woffinden is even World Champion at all in 2018. It just thankful that the Poles struggle with pressure as individual rider's as the speed they generate from their equipment is odd compared to the rest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 6:22 PM, auntie doris said: Great achievement by Woffy. Never seen so much national press coverage of the sport, even in the Mail and Independent. YOU'RE obviously a mere youngster... good to see however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted October 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: When you see the difference in performance between some rider's and 'Polish Power' it's quite miraculous that Woffinden is even World Champion at all in 2018. It just thankful that the Poles struggle with pressure as individual rider's as the speed they generate from their equipment is odd compared to the rest. TAI has a Polish tuner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted October 12, 2018 Tbf it's only Zmarzlik whose speed seems on another planet. Woffy is as quick as any of the other poles. Have to say in the final gp I was wondering how it was possible Zmarzlik could be so quick... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites