Wolfie456 500 Posted September 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, stevebrum said: And did every year until he got frozen out in the 1 over 8 rule. Doubt he would again tho. Hes already suggested he may give Sweden a miss next year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted September 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, Wolfie456 said: Hes already suggested he may give Sweden a miss next year Would like to see him back here for sure .... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevueace 913 Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Beowulf said: So the best riders in the world don't ride in the UK because the tracks are small ? I don't think so ! Everyone knows it is because it is not worth the effort for the money on the table . Yes we know about the money so the racing on those big fast polish tracks must be so poor as the riders just have to take their brains out and turn the throttle im surprised the numbers on the terraces actually bother. I remember going from Hyde road to Kirky lane, now we are at the NSS the crappy racing was at Kirky lane, when we were at the dog track we tried to convince ourselves the racing was better due to the tighter track and riders having to have more technical ability, we were kidding ourselves, the best racing by far was at Hyde road and now the NSS, absolutely no comparison, after all the clue is in the name, speedway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,017 Posted September 6, 2019 59 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: Every rider will make their own assessment. Let's face it, those who can get remarkably good money from Poland so, as you say, it's not surprising. There a lot of very wealthy riders at the top. At least this gives places for others and the pendulum may swing again at some point, who knows. As confirmed in the recent Darcy Ward podcast where he was very open about his earnings in UK, Sweden and Poland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,287 Posted September 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, iainb said: As confirmed in the recent Darcy Ward podcast where he was very open about his earnings in UK, Sweden and Poland What were the figures? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,017 Posted September 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: What were the figures? something like: £17k-£18k a match in Poland £4k-£5k a match in Sweden £1k-£2k a match in Britain around £10k for winning a GP ish 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, iainb said: something like: £17k-£18k a match in Poland £4k-£5k a match in Sweden £1k-£2k a match in Britain around £10k for winning a GP ish Without play off's its 14 league matches in Poland so that is around quarter of a million plus sponsorship money. Top riders must be earning fortunes now the Polish TV money has gone through the ceiling. Getting rough £1500 in the UK isn't on a par but there are not many jobs where you can earn that much in one evening. Plus the rider would have sponsorships over here to. When Ward was riding he would have done about 35 to 40 meetings. Edited September 6, 2019 by Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,032 Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Mark said: 14 league matches in Poland that is around quarter of a million plus sponsorship money. Top riders must be earning fortunes now the Polish TV money has gone through the ceiling. Getting rough £1500 in the UK isn't on a par but there are not many jobs where you can earn that much in one evening. Plus the rider would have sponsorships over here. When Ward was riding he would have done about 35 to 40 meetings. Yeah just look at Nicki P's house when he puts pictures/videos up on Instagram!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,017 Posted September 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Yeah just look at Nicki P's house when he puts pictures/videos up on Instagram!! It's that the one in Monaco? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,032 Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, iainb said: It's that the one in Monaco? No different one now, think it's back in Denmark. Think it was built to spec. If you watch some of the instagram stories of his today, shows the views he has. Pretty amazing. Gotta be Poland money...? Edited September 6, 2019 by lisa-colette Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,821 Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Wolfie456 said: Hes already suggested he may give Sweden a miss next year Really? Interesting development if so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,260 Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Mark said: Without play off's its 14 league matches in Poland so that is around quarter of a million plus sponsorship money. Top riders must be earning fortunes now the Polish TV money has gone through the ceiling. Getting rough £1500 in the UK isn't on a par but there are not many jobs where you can earn that much in one evening. Plus the rider would have sponsorships over here to. When Ward was riding he would have done about 35 Lindgren lives/lived in Andorra, maybe for tax reasons! Edited September 6, 2019 by SPEEDY69 Wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBP 66 Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, bellevueace said: Yes we know about the money so the racing on those big fast polish tracks must be so poor as the riders just have to take their brains out and turn the throttle im surprised the numbers on the terraces actually bother. I remember going from Hyde road to Kirky lane, now we are at the NSS the crappy racing was at Kirky lane, when we were at the dog track we tried to convince ourselves the racing was better due to the tighter track and riders having to have more technical ability, we were kidding ourselves, the best racing by far was at Hyde road and now the NSS, absolutely no comparison, after all the clue is in the name, speedway. Every meeting at Hyde road was not a great meeting it produced good and poor meetings and the dog track had some excellent as well as poor meetings just as the NSS is not great every meeting Yes there are some really good heats but plenty are follow the leader from the gate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DBP said: Every meeting at Hyde road was not a great meeting it produced good and poor meetings and the dog track had some excellent as well as poor meetings just as the NSS is not great every meeting Yes there are some really good heats but plenty are follow the leader from the gate It is true that all tracks produce good and poor meetings but there is no comparison between the quality of racing at the dog track and either Hyde Road or the NSS. Both of the latter more often than not produce(d) good entertaining meetings with fast, close racing, with genuine passing after bends 1 and 2. The dog track more often than not produced slower, spread out, racing with much less passing after bends 1 and 2 and a significant percentage of that passing was due to rider mistakes rather than riders being able to use multiple racing lines. Edited September 6, 2019 by Aces51 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevueace 913 Posted September 6, 2019 When i made my original comment about teams preferring to come to the NSS rather than Wolves that was based on my belief Wolves are more formidable round their own patch than we are, no mention about the tracks at all, I think Biowulf became defensive hence his comments. No track ever has produced exceptional racing every meeting that's just impossible, but given the option I would take aHyde Road or NSS over Kirky Lane any day, Aces 51 sums it up perfectly 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites