mikebv 10,292 Posted May 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, tellboy said: All this will do is put another addition to the rule book.The rule book has to many rules in it as it is.Why don't they just make every team make the declaration of their 1-7 by a certain date,obviously before any matches take place.Something like the end of February will do. Oooooo! Controversial... And easily what 100% should happen, personally by December giving 3 months of advertising and for the riders to drum up sponsorship.. Teams change daily in Speedway anyway so it would just be a "cosmetic starting point" anyway... Transfer window could be June and July and then that is it... April and May to build the averages, and after July there will still be plenty of matches left so no team can bring in riders a few weeks before the play offs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted May 1, 2022 2 hours ago, lisa-colette said: And if Poole did it you'd be first to call them what was it again? Oh yeah, cheating scumbags! Okay for BV do it though If it's in the rules then it's fine, if it's not then they should wait. Not like they wouldn't be able to do it, just when. I didn’t mention Poole - you did! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,035 Posted May 1, 2022 32 minutes ago, Steve0 said: I didn’t mention Poole - you did! I know I did lol. I just made a similar comparison where your opinion is completely different. Just interesting! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The bullsh!t being spouted about league and league Cup is just smoke and mirrors to justify the manipulation The regulation applies to the team declarations prior to the start of the season. It doesn't matter what competition has started or otherwise The fact that only League matches are quoted for the 25% makes no difference it still doesn't state you can make changes earlier As Bigcatdiary suggests they simply haven't applied the regulation and instead have copped out with the alternative "best interest" regulation British Speedway has no integrity as a sporting competition as a result If that’s the case then why in previous seasons, teams that ran challenge fixtures still had to wait until 25% of league fixtures had been run before being allowed to make changes? The rules are simple and very clear on this one and it’s terribly embarrassing to see such stupidity displayed on these pages. By the way, I’d like an answer to my question. Edited May 2, 2022 by ouch 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyderd 1,216 Posted May 2, 2022 25% of league matches, plain English. end of. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Irving 393 Posted May 2, 2022 1 hour ago, ouch said: If that’s the case then why in previous seasons, teams that ran challenge fixtures still had to wait until 25% of league fixtures had been run before being allowed to make changes? By the way, I’d like an answer to my question. I’ll answer it. Once again you’re talking absolute bollo(ks and plucking completely wrong statements out of your ar$e to suit your agenda. There was no 25% rule in previous seasons, evidenced by Lynn booting Craig Cook this time last year after 2 meetings. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted May 2, 2022 11 hours ago, lisa-colette said: I know I did lol. I just made a similar comparison where your opinion is completely different. Just interesting! Can you enlighten me? What rider did Poole sign at the start of a season on a short term contract and then release before the official “transfer window”? If there isn’t one then there is no comparison to make. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevueace 913 Posted May 2, 2022 15 hours ago, Call me wolfie said: Jealous, haha, you’re funny. What you’re trying to say is if the boot was on the other foot and Wolves had signed Freddy or Tai in the same situation you would be overjoyed. Pull the other one! To be fair Wolfie when Wolves signed Tai for the play offs only which did us no favours my thought was fair play to them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted May 2, 2022 1 hour ago, hyderd said: 25% of league matches, plain English. end of. Which hasn't happened but the initial declaration and the start of the season has.... With this comment you have just confirmed that the regulation hasn't been enforced Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted May 2, 2022 2 hours ago, ouch said: If that’s the case then why in previous seasons, teams that ran challenge fixtures still had to wait until 25% of league fixtures had been run before being allowed to make changes? The rules are simple and very clear on this one and it’s terribly embarrassing to see such stupidity displayed on these pages. By the way, I’d like an answer to my question. There has never been a 25% regulation in previous years Don't worry I forgive you for your stupidity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arch Stanton 2,255 Posted May 2, 2022 2 hours ago, ouch said: If that’s the case then why in previous seasons, teams that ran challenge fixtures still had to wait until 25% of league fixtures had been run before being allowed to make changes? The rules are simple and very clear on this one and it’s terribly embarrassing to see such stupidity displayed on these pages. By the way, I’d like an answer to my question. Don’t put yourself down! We all make mistakes.. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BV66 34 Posted May 2, 2022 On the BSPL website 20th March 2022, it states Douglas wins season opener, so that is when the 2022 season started, therefore BV should not have been allowed to change their then declared team until 25% of the League fixtures had been run. Also BV seasons opener was the Peter Craven, 21st March 2022, as the BSPL site said "Belle Vue launch their season with the Peter Craven". Therefore the season does not start at the first League meeting. It will, be interesting if the regulations are now changed, before the start of 2023 season, otherwise all teams will be using this ruling to make late changes to their declared teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Call me wolfie 677 Posted May 2, 2022 47 minutes ago, bellevueace said: To be fair Wolfie when Wolves signed Tai for the play offs only which did us no favours my thought was fair play to them. But a lot of people weren’t happy and still go on about it now. By the way, it wasn’t just for the playoffs, he rode for us for 5 or 6 meetings prior to the playoffs as well, which, by current rules, would still be allowed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,292 Posted May 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, BV66 said: On the BSPL website 20th March 2022, it states Douglas wins season opener, so that is when the 2022 season started, therefore BV should not have been allowed to change their then declared team until 25% of the League fixtures had been run. Also BV seasons opener was the Peter Craven, 21st March 2022, as the BSPL site said "Belle Vue launch their season with the Peter Craven". Therefore the season does not start at the first League meeting. It will, be interesting if the regulations are now changed, before the start of 2023 season, otherwise all teams will be using this ruling to make late changes to their declared teams. Really dont understand how important "not changing your line up" is to so many... It's the very essence of sport to try and improve... The line ups change ad hoc somewhere virtually every day/night from Monday to Sunday anyway so what does it really matter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites