SON 2022 27th-30th July Vojens Denmark live on TV

[racers and royals 8,732]

33 minutes ago, Dub said:

What tv channel is this being shown on?

 

Apologies if I have missed it.

 

Cheers 

For the umpteenth time it is on Discovery + sport and entertainment and Eurosport player- streams will be posted just before start time of 6pm

[Dub 3]

8 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

For the umpteenth time it is on Discovery + sport and entertainment and Eurosport player- streams will be posted just before start time of 6pm

Thanks,I think...

 

[Fromafar 10,370]

49 minutes ago, iainb said:

Year	Venue	Pos	1	2	3	4	5
2005	Czechoslovakia	1st	Janusz Kołodziej	Krystian Klecha	Marcin Rempała	Krzysztof Kasprzak	Karol Ząbik
2006	Poland	1st	Krzysztof Buczkowski	Adrian Miedziński	Paweł Hlib	Karol Ząbik	Paweł Miesiąc
2007	Germany	1st	Karol Zabik	Pawel Hlib	Krzysztof Buczkowski	Mateusz Szczepaniak	Adrian Gomólski
2008	Denmark	1st	Michał Mitko	Artur Mroczka	Grzegorz Zengota	Maciej Janowski	Daniel Pytel
2009	Poland	1st	Dawid Lampart	Maciej Janowski	Grzegorz Zengota	Przemysław Pawlicki	Artur Mroczka
2010	UK	3rd	Maciej Janowski	Patryk Dudek	Artur Mroczka	Przemyslaw Pawlick	Szymon Wozniak
2011	Russia	5th	Patryk Dudek	Przemysław Pawlicki	Maciej Janowski	Bartosz Zmarzlik	Piotr Pawlicki
2012	Poland	1st	Patryk Dudek	Maciej Janowski	Tobiasz Musielak	Przemyslaw Pawlick	Bartosz Zmarzlik
2013	Czechia	2nd	Patryk Dudek	Paweł Przedpełski	Piotr Pawlicki	Bartosz Zmarzlik
2014	Denmark	1st	Bartosz Zmarzlik	Piotr Pawlicki	Kacper Gomolski	Pawel Przedpelski
2015	Australia	1st	Maksym Drabik	Piotr Pawlicki	Bartosz Zmarzlik	Pawel Przedpelski
2016	Sweden	1st	Krystian Pieszczek	Bartosz Zmarzlik	Pawel Przedpelski	Bartosz Smektala	Daniel Kaczmarek
2017	Poland	1st	Bartosz Smektala	Kacper Woryna	Maksym Drabik	Dominik Kubera	Rafal Karczmarz
2018	Germany	1st	Rafal Karczmarz	Daniel Kaczmarek	Maksym Drabik	Bartosz Smektala	Wiktor Lampart
2019	UK	1st	Maksym Drabik	Dominik Kubera	Wiktor Lampart	Bartosz Smektala	Michal Gruchalski
2020	Germany	1st	Wiktor Lampart	Norbert Krakowiak	Viktor Trofimov	Jakub Miskowiak	Dominik Kubera
2021	Poland	 1st	Jakub Miskowiak	Wiktor Lampart	Mateusz Cierniak

 

Like you say dominant... they must be wondering where it's all going wrong at senior level

It’s hardly going wrong at Senior level,Zmarzlik twice world Champion,Poles done well in World Team Cup for its last few seasons so they changed the format to try to even things up.The last 2 SON they were finalists,Janowski falling in final probably cost them the win!.Will certainly be an interesting Final this year.May the best Team win.!

[cinderfella 865]

Find it hard not to laugh when you consider there are more overseas/foreign riders competing in the British Leagues than there are are actual Brits.

Really say something about the decline of British Speedway and the power of foreign cash.

[iainb 5,018]

I almost daren't ask the question... but at the risk of upsetting R&R, is there any reason why the final is not being held over 2 days?

[iainb 5,018]

36 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

It’s hardly going wrong at Senior level,Zmarzlik twice world Champion,Poles done well in World Team Cup for its last few seasons so they changed the format to try to even things up.The last 2 SON they were finalists,Janowski falling in final probably cost them the win!.Will certainly be an interesting Final this year.May the best Team win.!

Yeah, but if you ain't first you may as well be last. Their record at senior team level wasn't that great outside of Poland even before the format was changed and only 4 World Individual champions ever! Not great with all those junior championships under their belt. With the amount of money that is pumped into the sport in Poland you'd think somebody would be asking questions. What they have undoubtedly done well at is generating enough home grown talent to make their Leagues sustainable

[Col 854]

Janowski giving up Ekstraliga isn't going to happen, maybe moving away from Wroclaw would.  He rides Elitserin every year and spent much longer in British leagues than his contemporaries - several years at Kings Lynn, Swindon & Poole.

Did Zmarzlik ever complete a heat in his brief Brummies stint? Piotr Pawlicki did one season with Wolves. Dudek has never ridden here.

Janowski (2.293) and Dudek (2.351) average more in Ekstrloga than Kubera (2.094) and don't have their pick of heats unlike Kubera does being regularly at the farcical #8. Drabik's average has plummeted to 19th after getting an early GP Wildcard for topping the averages back then.

Interestingly Lambert is considerably higher the the Ekstraliga averages (9th) than Woffinden (17th).

[cinderfella 865]

8 minutes ago, iainb said:

I almost daren't ask the question... but at the risk of upsetting R&R, is there any reason why the final is not being held over 2 days?

The Poles wouldn't want to disrupt their Sundays 

[racers and royals 8,732]

1 minute ago, iainb said:

I almost daren't ask the question... but at the risk of upsetting R&R, is there any reason why the final is not being held over 2 days?

You won’t upset me because i have had many daft questions this week and yours is up there with the daftest.

The last comp we  had different venues for semi’s(Daugavpils ) and the final in Belle Vue.

This is a new concept 2 semi’s  and the new U21 Son plus the final all in one place- think they don’t want overkill of 2 senior finals and who can blame them !!!

[iainb 5,018]

2 minutes ago, Col said:

Janowski giving up Ekstraliga isn't going to happen, maybe moving away from Wroclaw would.  He rides Elitserin every year and spent much longer in British leagues than his contemporaries - several years at Kings Lynn, Swindon & Poole.

Of course he's not, most unlikely just like his chances of becoming World Champion. He seems far too laid back whenever i see him interviewed or in the pits

[iainb 5,018]

Just now, racers and royals said:

You won’t upset me because i have had many daft questions this week and yours is up there with the daftest.

The last comp we  had different venues for semi’s(Daugavpils ) and the final in Belle Vue.

This is a new concept 2 semi’s  and the new U21 Son plus the final all in one place- think they don’t want overkill of 2 senior finals and who can blame them !!!

You're such a grump 

[Col 854]

Poles in Elitserin.

Zmarzlik 2,839,

Piotr Pawlicki 2,320

Wozniak 2,091,

Kubera 2,078

Dudek 2.068

Woryna 1,984

Drabik 1,971

Smektala 1.954

Janowski 1.901

Przedpelski 1.836

Przemyslaw Pawlicki 1,776

 

[SpeedwayTShirts 307]

The Poles win in Poland by using oversized engines etc, bikes being wheeled out of the pits and replaced with compliant engines towards the end of meetings.  It's well known amongst the Team GB mechanics but nothing is done about it.

[stewmac 474]

28 minutes ago, SpeedwayTShirts said:

The Poles win in Poland by using oversized engines etc, bikes being wheeled out of the pits and replaced with compliant engines towards the end of meetings.  It's well known amongst the Team GB mechanics but nothing is done about it.

You win the most ridiculous post of the week so far hands down. 

[arnieg 3,644]

1 hour ago, Col said:

Poles in Elitserin.

Zmarzlik 2,839,

Piotr Pawlicki 2,320

Wozniak 2,091,

Kubera 2,078

Dudek 2.068

Woryna 1,984

Drabik 1,971

Smektala 1.954

Janowski 1.901

Przedpelski 1.836

Przemyslaw Pawlicki 1,776

 

And for comparison only one Swede (and it is not Lindgren!) above 1.800