racers and royals 8,730 Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) Wolfslake Germany on Saturday July 2nd 1 Silvar Avi EMF Estonia 2 Jacob Jensen DMU Denmark 3 Casper Appelgren SVEMO Sweden 4 Carlos Gernnerich DMSB Germany 5 Janek Konzack DMSB Germany 6 Villads Pedersen DMU Denmark 7 Leo Klasson SVEMO Sweden 8 Julian Ploog DMSB Germany 9 Rasmus Karlsson SVEMO Sweden 10 Dimitri Velle Buch DMU Denmark 11 Tyr Söderblom SVEMO Sweden 12 Hannah Grunwald DMSB Sweden 13 Ruben Garen Jensen NMF Norway 14 Christian L Rasmussen DMU Denmark 15 Jacob Bølcho DMU Denmark 16 Harry Lundahl SVEMO Sweden 17 Tyler Haupt DMSB Germany Edited June 29, 2022 by racers and royals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,990 Posted June 29, 2022 56 minutes ago, racers and royals said: Wolfslake Germany on Saturday July 2nd 1 Silvar Avi EMF Estonia 2 Jacob Jensen DMU Denmark 3 Casper Appelgren SVEMO Sweden 4 Carlos Gernnerich DMSB Germany 5 Janek Konzack DMSB Germany 6 Villads Pedersen DMU Denmark 7 Leo Klasson SVEMO Sweden 8 Julian Ploog DMSB Germany 9 Rasmus Karlsson SVEMO Sweden 10 Dimitri Velle Buch DMU Denmark 11 Tyr Söderblom SVEMO Sweden 12 Hannah Grunwald DMSB Sweden 13 Ruben Garen Jensen NMF Norway 14 Christian L Rasmussen DMU Denmark 15 Jacob Bølcho DMU Denmark 16 Harry Lundahl SVEMO Sweden 17 Tyler Haupt DMSB Germany Hannah Grunwald is German Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,730 Posted June 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, iris123 said: Hannah Grunwald is German Have a go at the FIM not the messenger (they did get DMSB correct) https://www.fim-moto.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/2022/Starting_list_-_FIM_Speedway_youth_gold_trophy_-_Wolfslake__GER__-_02.07.2022.pdf?t=1656505379 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,990 Posted June 29, 2022 Not having a go at anyone. Just correcting a mistake . That is all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,643 Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) Only the the third non Danish winner in over 20 years. Anders Mellgren (Sweden) and Norick Blodorn (Germany) were the previous ones. Past Danish winners include: Leon Madsen Mikkel Michelsen Anders Thomsen Nicolas Klindt Michael Palm Toft Mads Hansen Benjamin Basso Edited July 4, 2022 by arnieg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,990 Posted July 4, 2022 Notable that the entries from around the world have shrunk Always remember Penti Kiski i think his name was with his team of young Finns, who i seem to remember were mostly riding in the Swedish junior league Then the amount of young Aussie talent that came over. Saw Darcy Ward, Arthur Sissis and a host of other youngsters from down under have their first european meetings in this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted July 4, 2022 7 hours ago, iris123 said: Notable that the entries from around the world have shrunk Always remember Penti Kiski i think his name was with his team of young Finns, who i seem to remember were mostly riding in the Swedish junior league From 4 qualiefiers (64) to straight seeded final in about 15 years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,990 Posted July 4, 2022 I take it some young Finns still ride in the Swedish youth leagues ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted July 5, 2022 I honestly don't know. Introducing 250cc was the death of Finnish 85cc, since from already few a couple decided to switch, so not enough riders anymore to host 85cc meetings. A couple of kids from Varkaus have been touring the Baltics for 85cc heats in BSL, but don't know anymore about Sweden. Swedish 85cc used to have 100+ riders and in Denmark 150+ for 85cc and also 50cc. About 15 years ago... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,643 Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, f-s-p said: I honestly don't know. Introducing 250cc was the death of Finnish 85cc, since from already few a couple decided to switch, so not enough riders anymore to host 85cc meetings. A couple of kids from Varkaus have been touring the Baltics for 85cc heats in BSL, but don't know anymore about Sweden. Swedish 85cc used to have 100+ riders and in Denmark 150+ for 85cc and also 50cc. About 15 years ago... quick look at my records - number of regular (approx > one third of fixtures ridden) 85cc riders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,990 Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, arnieg said: quick look at my records - number of regular (approx > one third of fixtures ridden) 85cc riders And i would guess those numbers for Denmark are actually boosted now with a handful of German youngsters. In 2002 i think there were very very few. I think Katt did race in Denmark, but that would have been before 2002. All i remember were riders like Sönke Petersen doing 500cc there Wasn't really until the 'Drift Kids' got going, first at Güstrow then moved to Parchim around 2010 that a push towards Danish league 85cc started Edited July 5, 2022 by iris123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted July 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, arnieg said: quick look at my records - number of regular (approx > one third of fixtures ridden) 85cc riders I remember writing stories at the time, I just looked at total number each league... So even if I might have overstated it, not too much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,643 Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, iris123 said: And i would guess those numbers for Denmark are actually boosted now with a handful of German youngsters. In 2002 i think there were very very few. I think Katt did race in Denmark, but that would have been before 2002. All i remember were riders like Sönke Petersen doing 500cc there That's true (and the odd Aussie too). Although even in 2012 the top 85cc rider in Denmark was ... Max Fricke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,643 Posted July 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, f-s-p said: I remember writing stories at the time, I just looked at total number each league... So even if I might have overstated it, not too much Add in a few 'occasional' riders and your figures were pretty much spot on the 2002 numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites