Sheffield -V- Wolves Thursday 4th aug OFF

[4thbender 382]

40 minutes ago, The Third Man said:

So we should have had a construction team on standby, in case any unforeseen matters occurred, they they could have worked all Tuesday night, sure the local residents would have loved the noise, and if filled in a hole dug by a utilities company you would be in serious trouble, as well as the potential danger

No mate, the construction team was already there, and the speedway management should have made sure they stayed there until the work was completed to the satisfaction of all the stadium's users, not just the greyhound fraternity. It's called "protecting your interests."

[PhilTheAce 498]

17 minutes ago, Charlieboy said:

British Gas would never come and dig up your path as the gas company is Cadent gas. British Gas only do internal work. If cadent dug up your path they have got to make sure you have access to your property so would cover it with a board   We do have a speedway office at the track but I’m not sure it is manned every day. Non of the promotion are from Sheffield and have other work. 

They had all day Wednesday 

[4thbender 382]

15 minutes ago, Charlieboy said:

British Gas would never come and dig up your path as the gas company is Cadent gas. British Gas only do internal work. If cadent dug up your path they have got to make sure you have access to your property so would cover it with a board   We do have a speedway office at the track but I’m not sure it is manned every day. Non of the promotion are from Sheffield and have other work. 

I take it you've never run a business. If you had, you would know that any entrepreneur having hundreds of thousands of pounds invested in a business undertaking would make absolutely sure that no third party came along interfering with their ability to meet their business commitments or undermining their means of raising profitable revenue. Sheffield Speedway appear to have allowed these contractors to do both!

If I owned the business, I would have been there watching their every move and they wouldn't have left site until any damage to my stuff had been rectified.

[PhilTheAce 498]

2 minutes ago, 4thbender said:

I take it you've never run a business. If you had, you would know that any entrepreneur having hundreds of thousands of pounds invested in a business undertaking would make absolutely sure that no third party came along interfering with their ability to meet their business commitments or undermining their means of raising profitable revenue. Sheffield Speedway appear to have allowed these contractors to do both!

If I owned the business, I would have been there watching their every move and they wouldn't have left site until any damage to my stuff had been rectified.

And one would assume that Sheffield won’t be fixing these broken stumps. And that then that caused the damage will pay for the repairs and fix them 

[4thbender 382]

Just now, PhilTheAce said:

And one would assume that Sheffield won’t be fixing these broken stumps. And that then that caused the damage will pay for the repairs and fix them 

And who will pay Sheffield Speedway for the lost revenue, the riders for their loss of earnings, the stadium for lost car-park revenue, the fans for the disruption to travelling arrangements and the bars and on-track retailers for their losses? And before you mention it, the meeting will still go ahead, but it will probably be at the back end of September. This doesn't make allowance for weekly cashflow which requires all these stakeholders to pay their week-to-week bills in the meantime. It's a complete dog's dinner, and eminently avoidable. 

[4thbender 382]

2 hours ago, The Third Man said:

How can the buck stop with the promotion, it wasn't their fault the work overran and then damaged the fence posts as well

Its like saying it was Belle Vues fault Monday was rained off, they knew the rain was forecast, so should they have started an hour earlier and got the meeting finished, after all the buck stops with the promotion no matter what the fault is

You defeat your own argument. There are enough natural impediments to running a speedway team (such as weather issues, rider injuries, council regulators, local competition, noise abatement regs, etc) without causing extra ones through avoidable human error such as allowing contractors to overrun their schedules and damage property they've no right to be interfering with.

[The Third Man 2,217]

5 hours ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

Oh dear another safety fence problem at Sheffield that the track staff can't fix, not the first time 

How do the track staff repair damaged posts that presumably need digging out and replacing, a bit to specialised for volunteers 

[Charlieboy 412]

5 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

They had all day Wednesday 

All day Wednesday. Right  so assess the damage get a contractor ( like there are loads waiting for the phone to ring) get someone to look at the job and give you a price for the work then arrange a start date !!!  We are talking real work not fantasy. !!!  Don’t know your walk of life but get real. 

[Charlieboy 412]

5 hours ago, 4thbender said:

I take it you've never run a business. If you had, you would know that any entrepreneur having hundreds of thousands of pounds invested in a business undertaking would make absolutely sure that no third party came along interfering with their ability to meet their business commitments or undermining their means of raising profitable revenue. Sheffield Speedway appear to have allowed these contractors to do both!

If I owned the business, I would have been there watching their every move and they wouldn't have left site until any damage to my stuff had been rectified.

Actually I have 2 businesses one is rental. As landlord if there’s a problem I get someone to do the work  I haven’t got time to stand over them. I trust them to do the work I then check it and pay them. Mr Bates rents owlerton stadium. The landlord is heavily invested in the dog racing world. Speedway is secondary to him. Mr Bates has no control over what happens at the stadium. He just has to pick up the pieces and roll with it. If mr Allen has had a new dog track laid and the speedway side has suffered damages then if I was Mr Bates I would be having a word with the owner because the rental contract has been broken. I would hope that mr Allen foots the bill. Hope this helps you understand the problem our promotion have. 

[Charlieboy 412]

6 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

They had all day Wednesday 

Just a thought but I think I remember the National Speedway Stadium having problems with their brand new track not so long ago   Apparently they had ALL winter to prepare and lay the track but had to cancel the opening fixture due to the track not been fit to walk on let alone race on. Correct me if I’m wrong cus apparently it’s only Sheffield that have problems!!!!!

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706]

Lots of heads buried in the sand

(or up the backside of the promoters )

[JCookie 753]

6 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

Lots of heads buried in the sand

(or up the backside of the promoters )

That's the gist of it. Whether you genuinely are convinced by the promotion or not, there's a few on here who'd argue black was white if Damien Bates told them to.

[Steve55 340]

Got back home from Owlerton Stadium about 20 minutes ago. Yes I went there thinking the weathers great, track should be in great shape and looking forward to some good racing! I don't do social media (Facebook), I do look at the clubs website prior to meetings when the weathers bad or riders are injured, if at Sheffield or else where. I also occasionally look on here, on the run up to some meetings. But this week I've been busy and didn't. I wasn't the only person to turn up there this evening as a steady stream of cars came into the car park, with drivers and passengers having puzzled looks on their faces, whilst I was on my phone checking the clubs website. I saw three men (obviously not wise) standing in the car park, shrugging their shoulders whilst in conversation about the situation. I do hope that none of them had travelled from Wolverhampton, but they will have come from far and wide.

I've been going to Sheffield speedway on and off since I was 10 years old and with more than half a century gone I can't remember a season like this one. The COVID season last year ran better than this one. I've had a season ticket for the last 7 years, but I won't be getting one next year. The club have the email addresses of all the season ticket holders and probably their phone numbers as well on record. Wouldn't it have been a thought to send a message to ALL regarding what was happening. I've had radio Sheffield on today and heard the news twice but don't recall hearing about the meeting being off  -  was it on the radio? All I can say is that the contractors are to blame for the damage, but the club have to take most, if not all the responsibility for getting the word out there that the meeting was off and as far as I'm concerned they didn't do enough.

[PhilTheAce 498]

2 hours ago, Charlieboy said:

Just a thought but I think I remember the National Speedway Stadium having problems with their brand new track not so long ago   Apparently they had ALL winter to prepare and lay the track but had to cancel the opening fixture due to the track not been fit to walk on let alone race on. Correct me if I’m wrong cus apparently it’s only Sheffield that have problems!!!!!

And belle Vue rightfully got slated and lost 1000s. 
 

belle Vue in 2016 was a shambles. And Sheffield this year is a shambles. 

[Charlieboy 412]

8 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

Lots of heads buried in the sand

(or up the backside of the promoters )

Neither for me mate. I’m not a lover or hater of mr Bates but form my opinion on the facts not the headlines. Actually it suited me this week been called off so it’s a win for me.