Roger Jacobs 554 Posted July 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Skidder1 said: As third heat leader, one might question why he's in heats13 and 15?? In recent years he has ridden at 5, so was in 13, and was in 15 more frequently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Jacobs 554 Posted July 24, 2023 57 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I think that's 27 from 16 which is 6.75 Pretty much bang on his average then Fair enough. However, "bang on average" is just accepting King as he is - not as a guy who reckoned he himself could push on this year. He's not to blame for all the problems, but he set himself up to fail, because you would hope that such a phenomenal top two would spur him on and give him the space to improve - but he hasn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bellers101 347 Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Racin Jason 72 said: Trouble is he crumbles under pressure. He has conceded 5x 5-1s at home this season. Also for Redcar he never seems to perform in the big heats. also has a habit of racing his own teammates and can’t team ride or even look for his partner. Over the years he has been a tremendous asset to the club but the time has come to move on for both parties. He regularly touches or breaks the tapes in pressure races for Redcar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,260 Posted July 25, 2023 9 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I think that's 27 from 16 which is 6.75 Pretty much bang on his average then What did you expect? His average is his average, it's the losses against second strings in close matches at home which people notice. Wins against Peterborough don't really count 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MP78 17 Posted July 25, 2023 Lots of comments here that have summed up the situation really well... I think two other significant factors with Danny King are... 1. As captain he doesn't come across that he has fire in his belly... his interviews or the coin toss are always mild mannered at best, which is just his character I guess. So maybe he shouldn't be put in that position and the Witches hand the armband to Doyle, who many would have as skipper if given a choice. 2. It's been mentioned earlier in this thread, but staleness is a major factor. He knows he's in the team regardless - Fans want to be excited when team building rolls around, not let out a collective groan when the rider they 99.9999% expected to be in is announced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted July 25, 2023 But you can already basically pencil in King Riss Hume in for next year already,,,, whatever the format Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue witch 46 Posted July 25, 2023 He was hidden from Number 5 last year when we only had Doyle as an out and out heat leader. Batch had to take on the responsibility and at home done his job most of the time but struggled away. People who haven't been foxhall for last couple of seasons just looking at his average. If you saw it live you'd realize why everyone's moaning about him at home 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,050 Posted July 25, 2023 Have a look at Kings record at home in heat 12 up against the opposition number 3 and a reserve ….. see how many times he has been on the wrong end of a 5-1 …. See how many times the opposition number 3 beats him He has beat Ellis though lol 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJC 251 Posted July 25, 2023 His average is relatively healthy as he's almost guaranteed 4 points minimum each meeting, just from beating Riss and Thompson/Hume who are all struggling. Then he has the two other reserves to beat meaning he will usually get 6 without breaking a sweat. The odd decent trap at home will mean he'll beat most no 4's in ht 3 and the odd race win in 12 at home giving him 7/8 points for little effort. Means he looks like he's scoring well and hitting a decent average but the reality is he's not beating anyone of note to justify a 'heat leader' role. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowboy cookie returns? 747 Posted July 25, 2023 9 hours ago, Gavan said: Have a look at Kings record at home in heat 12 up against the opposition number 3 and a reserve ….. see how many times he has been on the wrong end of a 5-1 …. See how many times the opposition number 3 beats him He has beat Ellis though lol 7 times in 12 home meetings heat 12 has seen a heat advantage to the away team. He was evening on the wrong end of a heat 12 1-5 v Kings Lynn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DazS 431 Posted July 26, 2023 Riss looked like he put some effort in last night, but didn't look quick enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MP78 17 Posted July 26, 2023 Confidence is still way off... He looked so nervy when anyone got close to him and then of course they sail by! 2 hours ago, DazS said: Riss looked like he put some effort in last night, but didn't look quick enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
89buttons 761 Posted July 26, 2023 Finnish kid vuolas looks a tidy rider 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, 89buttons said: Finnish kid vuolas looks a tidy rider And he has ambitions 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,292 Posted July 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Baldyman said: And he has ambitions One of which being that Kelvin gets his name right... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
