Spiderman1 183 Posted August 18, 2023 5 hours ago, iainb said: I'd do it (if it's affordable and providing you can have 2 "rising stars" in 1 team)... Cook is a waste of space, tough on Allen though who I didn't fancy at the start of the season but to be fair has been a pretty decent reserve all season Yep cannot see anyone that would be better on his average around ALL tracks, fix the track to suit the current riders ,need consistancy there,run a practice meet ,bad move giving bomber the ass,cook was always going to be risky but give him a crack,hasn’t been a consistent rider on thier home turf all season ,must be a solution around track prep 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4BM 116 Posted August 19, 2023 Any team taking on Cook is a massive gamble, always misses meetings with a variety of reasons be that mental health card, dodgy van, or just doesn’t fancy it, it’s been the same for years now. They’d have been better going for someone who gives their all each meeting like Mountain and use the points elsewhere to rebuild 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PowerfulPierre 88 Posted August 19, 2023 22 hours ago, Teromaafan said: Holder's last average in the UK was 7.16 (back in 2017). Assuming that still stands, by my maths, the following could be accommodated: Cook & Allen out Holder & Joe Thompson in. Overall improvement? Joe Thompson gone to Poole to replace injured Adam Roynon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,018 Posted August 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, PowerfulPierre said: Joe Thompson gone to Poole to replace injured Adam Roynon. He's not got a prem team though has he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pauldoveyspeedway 144 Posted August 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, PowerfulPierre said: Joe Thompson gone to Poole to replace injured Adam Roynon. If J.Holder comes back what about Woffy???..under the same banner Sheffield and Leicester... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,018 Posted August 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: If J.Holder comes back what about Woffy???..under the same banner Sheffield and Leicester... I think a way will be found to keep Woffy and Jack in the same team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pauldoveyspeedway 144 Posted August 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, iainb said: I think a way will be found to keep Woffy and Jack in the same team Yeah true ...But if not Leicester...2 of his teams in the play offs ...If B.V win it u wouldnt want to finish fourth ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickB 5 Posted August 19, 2023 6 hours ago, 4BM said: Any team taking on Cook is a massive gamble, always misses meetings with a variety of reasons be that mental health card, dodgy van, or just doesn’t fancy it, it’s been the same for years now. They’d have been better going for someone who gives their all each meeting like Mountain and use the points elsewhere to rebuild I agree with your sentiment that Cook is a strange move but please, "Mental health card" Shows a huge amount of disrespect for the many people who deal with issues or care for those that do. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4BM 116 Posted August 19, 2023 58 minutes ago, NickB said: I agree with your sentiment that Cook is a strange move but please, "Mental health card" Shows a huge amount of disrespect for the many people who deal with issues or care for those that do. what I was saying was he uses that when it seems to suit, he may suffer with it but it seems that speedway isn’t helping him, a lot with him is to do with issues outside of speedway I know he had a big thing happen over the winter that’s not been all over the speedway press or social media and also had some work on his back post season that no doubt impacted him I have family and friends that have been diagnosed with anxiety so know how it impacts people and if they identify a situation or scenario that gets to then they steer clear which could be something Cook could with following Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickB 5 Posted August 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, 4BM said: what I was saying was he uses that when it seems to suit, he may suffer with it but it seems that speedway isn’t helping him, a lot with him is to do with issues outside of speedway I know he had a big thing happen over the winter that’s not been all over the speedway press or social media and also had some work on his back post season that no doubt impacted him I have family and friends that have been diagnosed with anxiety so know how it impacts people and if they identify a situation or scenario that gets to then they steer clear which could be something Cook could with following Fair enough, I have no reason or desire to get into any sort of back and forth with you, or indeed to defend Cook or discuss his own personal issues. I just felt like I needed to flag what appeared to be a flippant comment about a serious problem for many people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teromaafan 586 Posted August 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, 4BM said: what I was saying was he uses that when it seems to suit, he may suffer with it but it seems that speedway isn’t helping him, a lot with him is to do with issues outside of speedway I know he had a big thing happen over the winter that’s not been all over the speedway press or social media and also had some work on his back post season that no doubt impacted him I have family and friends that have been diagnosed with anxiety so know how it impacts people and if they identify a situation or scenario that gets to then they steer clear which could be something Cook could with following Totally get what you are saying. But you are are either fit (mentally or physically) or not to participate in a very dangerous sport which is also demands an extensive travelling commitment. Personal health and well being are the priority, but excuses for under performing to the paying public should not be tolerated. Either commit fully to your employer or step back to sort yourself out. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justsaying 7 Posted August 20, 2023 12 hours ago, 4BM said: what I was saying was he uses that when it seems to suit, he may suffer with it but it seems that speedway isn’t helping him, a lot with him is to do with issues outside of speedway I know he had a big thing happen over the winter that’s not been all over the speedway press or social media and also had some work on his back post season that no doubt impacted him I have family and friends that have been diagnosed with anxiety so know how it impacts people and if they identify a situation or scenario that gets to then they steer clear which could be something Cook could with following You forgot to let us know your actual medical qualifications. I understand that you have an opinion but health is something best left to the experts in my opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,018 Posted August 20, 2023 13 hours ago, 4BM said: what I was saying was he uses that when it seems to suit, he may suffer with it but it seems that speedway isn’t helping him, a lot with him is to do with issues outside of speedway I know he had a big thing happen over the winter that’s not been all over the speedway press or social media and also had some work on his back post season that no doubt impacted him I have family and friends that have been diagnosed with anxiety so know how it impacts people and if they identify a situation or scenario that gets to then they steer clear which could be something Cook could with following 37 minutes ago, Justsaying said: You forgot to let us know your actual medical qualifications. I understand that you have an opinion but health is something best left to the experts in my opinion Can't we just agree that he's crap... whatever the reason 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Al 708 Posted August 20, 2023 The problem with making a mistake, is trying to correct it but in doing so you can just make another one, which ends up by making the whole situation even worse than it was originally. Unless there's a stunning signing in the pipeline such as Wozniak, it's now in the hands of the riders to get Stewart Dickson off the hook and maybe actually they "owe him one". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,033 Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/19/2023 at 3:48 PM, iainb said: I think a way will be found to keep Woffy and Jack in the same team No chance, would have to make a multitude of changes & would certainly lose their strong reserve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
