Fromafar 10,363 Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, alang said: Was done even before the first meeting In hindsight you and a lot of fans were correct.I actually gave the Team benefit of the doubt.(wrongly unfortunately).Think Rory is the only one who done what was expected.IMO. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,247 Posted August 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Heedthebaw said: For two home meetings left who going to come ? Are you talking riders or spectators? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alang 306 Posted August 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, Fromafar said: In hindsight you and a lot of fans were correct.I actually gave the Team benefit of the doubt.(wrongly unfortunately).Think Rory is the only one who done what was expected.IMO. In their defence I suppose it's all too easy being critical and writing rubbish on here without knowing anything of the difficulties involved in signing riders and putting teams together but they do seem to have made a right balls-up of it all this year. Maybe too much effort gone into Oxford? Just a wee suggestion . 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,781 Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, alang said: In their defence I suppose it's all too easy being critical and writing rubbish on here without knowing anything of the difficulties involved in signing riders and putting teams together but they do seem to have made a right balls-up of it all this year. Maybe too much effort gone into Oxford? Just a wee suggestion . Which is why, in my opinion, you shouldn't be allowed to have owners/Promoters involved at two (or more!) separate teams who race in the same league. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,363 Posted August 17, 2023 They say they build Teams too a budget to protect the future of Speedway at Berwick.It’s a fine line and it has too be entertaining to keep the crowd levels.There have been a couple of decent matches this season IMO,but results have been poor.The fixture list has been a shambles.Even now we have we Glasgow turning up without Harris a big attraction especially at Berwick when it been known all season he was in World Longtrack.with all these blank Saturdays throughout the season.It turning fans off the sport. Fans can accept guests for injuries,but they turn up every week for all sorts of reason nowadays. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bandit59 1,151 Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Fromafar said: They say they build Teams too a budget to protect the future of Speedway at Berwick.It’s a fine line and it has too be entertaining to keep the crowd levels.There have been a couple of decent matches this season IMO,but results have been poor.The fixture list has been a shambles.Even now we have we Glasgow turning up without Harris a big attraction especially at Berwick when it been known all season he was in World Longtrack.with all these blank Saturdays throughout the season.It turning fans off the sport. Fans can accept guests for injuries,but they turn up every week for all sorts of reason nowadays. Spot on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MD 1,307 Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fromafar said: They say they build Teams too a budget to protect the future of Speedway at Berwick.It’s a fine line and it has too be entertaining to keep the crowd levels.There have been a couple of decent matches this season IMO,but results have been poor.The fixture list has been a shambles.Even now we have we Glasgow turning up without Harris a big attraction especially at Berwick when it been known all season he was in World Longtrack.with all these blank Saturdays throughout the season.It turning fans off the sport. Fans can accept guests for injuries,but they turn up every week for all sorts of reason nowadays. Signing a 7 point rider on a 9.5 average hasnt helped matters. It pushed valuable points away from the lower order and made the team even weaker, though I appreciate there may not have been many options out there. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,363 Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, MD said: Signing a 7 point rider on a 9.5 average hasnt helped matters. It pushed valuable points away from the lower order and made the team even weaker, though I appreciate there may not have been many options out there. I personally think they got caught out with TJ average they perhaps thought he would be on his last Championship figure.But they are not going to admit that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,027 Posted August 18, 2023 10 hours ago, MD said: Signing a 7 point rider on a 9.5 average hasnt helped matters. It pushed valuable points away from the lower order and made the team even weaker, though I appreciate there may not have been many options out there. 10 hours ago, Fromafar said: I personally think they got caught out with TJ average they perhaps thought he would be on his last Championship figure. But they are not going to admit that. TJs average meant they started weaker, but as soon as it dropped & they could replace Stoneman (2.00) with Hook (4.00), they were back on par with a 40.00 limit, so that could no longer be used as an excuse for having a poor team. If they got caught out with his average, that would be very poor, it's been a (stupid) rule for a few seasons now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 8,057 Posted August 18, 2023 10 hours ago, Fromafar said: They say they build Teams too a budget to protect the future of Speedway at Berwick.It’s a fine line and it has too be entertaining to keep the crowd levels.There have been a couple of decent matches this season IMO,but results have been poor.The fixture list has been a shambles.Even now we have we Glasgow turning up without Harris a big attraction especially at Berwick when it been known all season he was in World Longtrack.with all these blank Saturdays throughout the season.It turning fans off the sport. Fans can accept guests for injuries,but they turn up every week for all sorts of reason nowadays. Berwick Bandits had 3 home matches between 6th May to 22nd July, that tells you everything you need to know about the fixture schedule. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Normski 1,315 Posted August 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, screm said: Berwick Bandits had 3 home matches between 6th May to 22nd July, that tells you everything you need to know about the fixture schedule. They had a rain off against Plymouth but it would still have only been 4 meeting in that period. Wonder if Han's is fit for this weekends meetings after his crash in Denmark 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,781 Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, screm said: Berwick Bandits had 3 home matches between 6th May to 22nd July, that tells you everything you need to know about the fixture schedule. And, yet, Berwick decided to have (expensive) Double Headers !! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,363 Posted August 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, StevePark said: And, yet, Berwick decided to have (expensive) Double Headers !! Too try to save money on Ground Rental and First Aid was the reason I believe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,781 Posted August 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Too try to save money on Ground Rental and First Aid was the reason I believe. In that case, maybe they shouldn't have entered two leagues then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,363 Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, StevePark said: In that case, maybe they shouldn't have entered two leagues then? I agree.It certainly didn’t help their pricing structure running double headers .IMO Edited August 18, 2023 by Fromafar 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites