Skidder1 7,637 Posted November 2, 2023 48 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Thing is ,certain Promotions will still want to employ him,does nothing for the image of the sport. Just as well it probably won't get reported anywhere else then! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammer1969 421 Posted November 2, 2023 28 minutes ago, fatface said: Hmm. Are you so damning on all those rock stars you admire? We don't know the detail of this. The statement is not very revealing. What were the circumstances behind these substances being in their system? Has Worrall pleaded guilty or not? From what we do know, Boxall is a repeat offender, so its a pattern of behaviour and he didn't bother to defend it, so he deserves the book thrown at him. For Worrall, it's his first time, he defending himself and he's been punished. Young men make mistakes and deserve a second chance, hopefully he will learn from it. First time? First time he got caught do you mean, speedway is dangerous if you do drugs don't get on a speedway bike and put others at risk of serious injury. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dog 413 Posted November 2, 2023 Tbh, is anybody actually surprised at the statement and the punishments? Boxhall has previous and in the eyes of the BSPA, just another rider. Worrall on the other hand is one of the better riders and a heat leader at most clubs, do we think the the lenient punishment has anything to do with losing a 'top' rider? Morris must be feeling very narked and hard done by with these punishments, tho his ban should have been a yardstick for Boxhall and Worrall. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wtf 621 Posted November 2, 2023 It's frustrating where Morris's punishment for not taking a test was, I felt correct and serves as a deterrent for others. Worrall's punishment for taking a recreational drug known to impair your judgement is sufficiently pathetic to say to anyone else, " don't worry about it, if you get caught, you'll miss a few months" It's not like he held his hands up, admitted it, and showed any remorse. Initially at least. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinny 2,536 Posted November 2, 2023 Shocking outcome and punishment. should of got 2 year ban as of when he was found guilty. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,363 Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, fatface said: Hmm. Are you so damning on all those rock stars you admire? We don't know the detail of this. The statement is not very revealing. What were the circumstances behind these substances being in their system? Has Worrall pleaded guilty or not? From what we do know, Boxall is a repeat offender, so its a pattern of behaviour and he didn't bother to defend it, so he deserves the book thrown at him. For Worrall, it's his first time, he defending himself and he's been punished. Young men make mistakes and deserve a second chance, hopefully he will learn from it. How can you defend him.They are meant to be Professional sportsmen ,they know the rules. It is noticeably in every case of drugs in every sport they plead innocent, but very rarely that is the case when results are known.Excuses don’t wash. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUPERACE 440 Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, fatface said: Hmm. Are you so damning on all those rock stars you admire? We don't know the detail of this. The statement is not very revealing. What were the circumstances behind these substances being in their system? Has Worrall pleaded guilty or not? From what we do know, Boxall is a repeat offender, so its a pattern of behaviour and he didn't bother to defend it, so he deserves the book thrown at him. For Worrall, it's his first time, he defending himself and he's been punished. Young men make mistakes and deserve a second chance, hopefully he will learn from it. Rockstar taking cocaine at a concert is not putting his band mates lives at risk. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dog 413 Posted November 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, wtf said: It's frustrating where Morris's punishment for not taking a test was, I felt correct and serves as a deterrent for others. Worrall's punishment for taking a recreational drug known to impair your judgement is sufficiently pathetic to say to anyone else, " don't worry about it, if you get caught, you'll miss a few months" It's not like he held his hands up, admitted it, and showed any remorse. Initially at least. Absolutely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E I Addio 15,845 Posted November 2, 2023 Comparison with rock stars is nonsense. Worrall and Boxall were taking substances deemed to be performance enhancing. I can’t think of any other sport where someone would not get a ban for doing anything, drugs or otherwise, that was deemed to give an unfair advantage over the other competitors. In essence it’s no different to going to the line with an oversized engine.Its just another way of gaining advantage over riders who play by the rules, and ultimately to cheat the spectators. In addition they both knew full well they were breaking the rules. After Morris, Worrall and Boxall one would hope the message would get through to any other riders minded to act similarly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUPERACE 440 Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, AceBelle said: so Morris gets 2xyear ban no test taken? worrall 9mth basically? being guilty of cocaine?? Doesn't add up to me ? It's always the case for not taking a test as Morris could of taken anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatface 2,554 Posted November 2, 2023 41 minutes ago, DJC said: I'd hazard a guess there are only a few ways cocaine can get into your system and very few of those are inadvertently. He isn't really a 'young man', he's in his 30's and has been a 'professional sportsman' for almost 2 decades- it isn't a silly mistake - he should know better! and you can't seriously compare standing on a stage miming to jumping on a 60mph bike with no breaks with 13 other blokes? Give your head a wobble. Then let me clarify for you. I'm saying taking his livelihood away for good is not appropriate, as some are suggesting. He's made a mistake, he's been rightly punished. Boxall is a repeat offender and deserves much harsher treatment. Of course Worrall should know better. Now he does. People make mistakes in life. This is a big one and he's been punished and - in the eyes of some - will be tarnished forever. There will always be plenty of folk charging out of the door with their pitch forks shouting "burn him", particularly in the extreme black and white media world folk inhabit. Real life doesn't work that way. As far as I know Richie Worrall doesn't have a track record of misdemeanors, so let's been grown up about it and not treat him like some leper. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ONTWOMINUTES 123 Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, fatface said: Then let me clarify for you. I'm saying taking his livelihood away for good is not appropriate, as some are suggesting. He's made a mistake, he's been rightly punished. Boxall is a repeat offender and deserves much harsher treatment. Of course Worrall should know better. Now he does. People make mistakes in life. This is a big one and he's been punished and - in the eyes of some - will be tarnished forever. There will always be plenty of folk charging out of the door with their pitch forks shouting "burn him", particularly in the extreme black and white media world folk inhabit. Real life doesn't work that way. As far as I know Richie Worrall doesn't have a track record of misdemeanors, so let's been grown up about it and not treat him like some leper. Totally agree, it's not the first time a top rider has been caught taking drugs. Richie maybe thought he'd get away with it , how often he was doing this recreationaly is up to him but ignorance of after effects on himself and more importantly others is shameful. On the other hand if , as has come out his drink was spiked then he's been very unlucky. Edited November 2, 2023 by ONTWOMINUTES 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flagrag 704 Posted November 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Fromafar said: Is the mitigation consideration that he got caught.Seems rather light sentence.IMO.Especially suspending 9 months of it. The Mitigation was that his drink got spiked on a night out the weekend before the test took place. Which was confirmed in the levels that were in the laboratory tested sample . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,363 Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, flagrag said: The Mitigation was that his drink got spiked on a night out the weekend before the test took place. Which was confirmed in the levels that were in the laboratory tested sample . Of course it did..!! They will be telling us who spiked the drink next!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,017 Posted November 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, fatface said: Then let me clarify for you. I'm saying taking his livelihood away for good is not appropriate, as some are suggesting. He'll have to get another job then... just like a delivery driver would if they lost their licence 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
