screm 8,057 Posted April 14 2 hours ago, spt82 said: Can't see how it's an inexplicable decision in Heat 11 when it was explained that it's a new rule that the race must be stopped, whether that's right or wrong is another debate. Its wrong and that`s the debate over. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spt82 86 Posted April 14 53 minutes ago, screm said: Its wrong and that`s the debate over. Yeah I don't agree with this new rule either, but it's the rule we have therefore it was the correct decision whether you like it or not. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,071 Posted April 14 3 hours ago, Macca said: Think you’re reading into things a bit too much here. Haha! Yeah, once I started, just carried on rambling lol! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheWellBehavedWorrall 293 Posted April 16 I’ve just watched the highlights of this meeting on Berwick’s YouTube channel and I have one question… was Stevie Wonder the referee? Etheridge’s exclusion in heat five was beyond harsh; his front wheel was taken away from him by Thomson in what’s surely the perfect definition of first bend bunching. If that was how the referee was governing the entire meeting, then fair enough, but he then went on to allow Castagna back in the re-run of heat fourteen after clipping Borke’s rear wheel, causing a crash. I thought both incidents were the natural risks of bikes hitting a 10M wide corner with no breaks, so all four should have been back for the re-run, but for the referee to discriminate against one - arguably the least offensive, too - and not the other, is outrageous. Are referees held accountable in speedway? If Berwick dropped points on Saturday night, they would have had every right to be furious. Shocking, bizarre and outright poor refereeing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,395 Posted April 16 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said: I’ve just watched the highlights of this meeting on Berwick’s YouTube channel and I have one question… was Stevie Wonder the referee? Etheridge’s exclusion in heat five was beyond harsh; his front wheel was taken away from him by Thomson in what’s surely the perfect definition of first bend bunching. If that was how the referee was governing the entire meeting, then fair enough, but he then went on to allow Castagna back in the re-run of heat fourteen after clipping Borke’s rear wheel, causing a crash. I thought both incidents were the natural risks of bikes hitting a 10M wide corner with no breaks, so all four should have been back for the re-run, but for the referee to discriminate against one - arguably the least offensive, too - and not the other, is outrageous. Are referees held accountable in speedway? If Berwick dropped points on Saturday night, they would have had every right to be furious. Shocking, bizarre and outright poor refereeing. Castagna started from Gate 2 and turned inside Borge and hit him half way up the back wheel!! Should have been excluded .IMO. Edited April 16 by Fromafar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,789 Posted April 16 32 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said: I’ve just watched the highlights of this meeting on Berwick’s YouTube channel and I have one question… was Stevie Wonder the referee? Etheridge’s exclusion in heat five was beyond harsh; his front wheel was taken away from him by Thomson in what’s surely the perfect definition of first bend bunching. If that was how the referee was governing the entire meeting, then fair enough, but he then went on to allow Castagna back in the re-run of heat fourteen after clipping Borke’s rear wheel, causing a crash. I thought both incidents were the natural risks of bikes hitting a 10M wide corner with no breaks, so all four should have been back for the re-run, but for the referee to discriminate against one - arguably the least offensive, too - and not the other, is outrageous. Are referees held accountable in speedway? If Berwick dropped points on Saturday night, they would have had every right to be furious. Shocking, bizarre and outright poor refereeing. Well, a referee was given a suspension after a Premiership match a few weeks ago, so draw your own conclusions from that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,395 Posted April 16 1 minute ago, StevePark said: Well, a referee was given a suspension after a Premiership match a few weeks ago, so draw your own conclusions from that. McGregor was the ref on Sat. Draw your own conclusions from that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheWellBehavedWorrall 293 Posted April 16 29 minutes ago, StevePark said: Well, a referee was given a suspension after a Premiership match a few weeks ago, so draw your own conclusions from that. Which referee and what happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tyretrax 2,254 Posted April 16 To WBW. There is no such rule of "first bend bunching". If the race is stopped it's deemed "unsatisfactory start". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,789 Posted April 16 42 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said: Which referee and what happened? The (unnamed) ref was Dave Watters: https://britishspeedway.co.uk/miscellaneous/scb-statement-leicester-v-kings-lynn-2/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crescent girl 1,907 Posted April 16 1 hour ago, StevePark said: The (unnamed) ref was Dave Watters: https://britishspeedway.co.uk/miscellaneous/scb-statement-leicester-v-kings-lynn-2/ Mystery is, why was this publicised? Many instances of ref's making mistakes (only human) and there was no need to publicly pillory Mr Watters for what may or may not have been the wrong decision on the night. Better to have a quiet word... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,395 Posted April 16 2 hours ago, crescent girl said: Mystery is, why was this publicised? Many instances of ref's making mistakes (only human) and there was no need to publicly pillory Mr Watters for what may or may not have been the wrong decision on the night. Better to have a quiet word... Agree. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,789 Posted April 16 2 hours ago, crescent girl said: Mystery is, why was this publicised? Many instances of ref's making mistakes (only human) and there was no need to publicly pillory Mr Watters for what may or may not have been the wrong decision on the night. Better to have a quiet word... Better ask the SCB that one. It was them who said it on their website that there was to be an investigation into the refereeing decisions that night and, after the hearing into those investigations and it was on the BSPL website when the line-ups were announced, who the referee was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,395 Posted April 16 9 minutes ago, StevePark said: Better ask the SCB that one. It was them who said it on their website that there was to be an investigation into the refereeing decisions that night and, after the hearing into those investigations and it was on the BSPL website when the line-ups were announced, who the referee was. While that was the case, you have too admit it was a strange decision.Certainly not a common one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,789 Posted April 16 7 minutes ago, Fromafar said: While that was the case, you have too admit it was a strange decision.Certainly not a common one. Perhaps it's the beginning of the SCB & BSPL being more open/public?? Who knows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
