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    • Interesting how so many Premiership team fans on here are convinced that if it went to one league, the Premiership teams would royally screw the Championship teams by hoovering up all the top riders and leaving the dregs for the Championship teams.  And they wonder why no-one wants to join their failing league! The 9 Championship teams this year agreed to share out league strength by having only 1 rider over 8 points. This was to ensure that all teams had done strength after last seasons disparity. In one league of 14 teams, why would 9 teams vote to allow 5 teams to screw them over? Just to clarify, as I question the intelligence of some, 9 is bigger than 5. For 2 years the 5 "big" teams screwed the Spires and Brummies, and no longer have them in the league. The Championship promoters chose not to go down that route. Yes Poole, Glasgow and Redcar will be relatively weaker next season, but they chose the intelligent option of making sure that the didn't kill off the 'weaker' teams. If Chris Louis is the messiah like promoter some are holding him up to be, why didn't he and his cronies take their foot off the throat of Oxford and Birmingham before they killed them off? (Yes I know Brummies lost their track but for all the plans to keep the Premiership going, not one has been keep the Brummies going at another venue as the promoter walked away from the Premiership and the fans didn't support an obviously canon fodder team). IF the Premiership fails and joins the Championship, to make it one league, then the points limit and team building rules would be set at a level where the Premiership teams could not do that to the Championship teams because the bullying majority would be the minority.
    • You've completely missed the point.  (perhaps you haven't been following the thread from the start?) No one is suggesting Doris and Bob should be ignored.  No one is saying they shouldn't be catered for.  They are absolutely an important part of our speedway family.  As important as any other fan.  Maybe more so - they've been there through thick and thin. And no one has knocked today's Collectors Fair.  Everyone seems to agree it's a great product and they have praised the fans who organised it.   It's a great way for super-fans to pick up old programmes and memorabilia, and see old bike, old leathers and wallow in brilliant nostalgia with like-minded friends.  A great day out for fans. What we've been reacting to, is a crazy suggestion that all 2026 club promoters should be there because it's a chance to market the sport to new fans.    Of course this is nonsense, and this is what we are all disagreeing with. This collectors fair provides a great day of nostalgia for diehard existing fans (Doris and Bob).  But young Oliver and Amelia are at home playing on their smartphones.   They were born in 2015, so they are not interested in a show of oily old 1960s bikes.  They've never heard of speedway.   And 30-year-old Tarquin and Jennifer, who run their successful dot.com business, (who could be a potential speedway sponsors of the future), are not wandering round a village hall collectors fair on a saturday afternoon either.   In short, there are no ordinary members of the public, potential new supporters, for promoters to market to.    It would be a completely pointless waste of a day for Chris Louis, or Matt Ford, or Gerry Facenna to be there at a collectors fair, selling the sport to Doris and Bob, who have been there and bought the t-shirt many years before Tarquin and Jennifer were born.  That's what we are disagreeing with - The suggestion that current promoters should be forced into wasting their time at a collectors fair when there are far more important issues they need to be addressing.  
    • Is there a "guest migrant" policy.   ?
    • You would also have a potential issue with which teams promoter has sponsored the overseas riders visa.. Some double up but one team will be the sponsor... You can imagine that the team sponsoring the visa would claim the rider...
    • Lewis is also part of his team working on the destruction of the Abbey and was at the public consultation for Studley Grange.   He also worked with Osborne at MK and Torquay...
    • When I used to sponsor workers,  for "some" overseas workers they now have to show they are guaranteed to earn £41k a year as a minimum.. There are EU and Commonwealth differences, plus different tiers... £41k will be "there or thereabouts" for a fair few overseas riders if only riding in Div 2 I would think... Maybe sone clubs will need to up their deals by a few quid? 
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