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who was the team manager tonight Kevin Keegan , twelve points clear in front and blew the lead again

Very disappointing performance by the Diamonds, two heat leaders who before they were signed stated their dislike of the track and a No. 1 who is a shadow of the rider he was. Many dissatisfied fans muttering on the terraces tonight, not about the bravery of the riders just the seeming lack of application and willingness to mix it. Too late to salvage anything this season, both cup semi finalists should be too strong for us both home and away. I know we don't just go to see our team win but when the racing is uncompetitive you can understand why people don't come back. I really fear for the survival of the diamonds.

I hope that it’s now obvious to the promoters that double header meetings are not feasible at Beaumont Park as the maths don’t add up. Like many fans I park on the Shopping centre car park where there is 4 hours free parking. It takes me about 15 minutes to walk to the track and queue to get in. It’s about the same to get back to the car after the meeting and queue to get out of the car park so that’s 30 minutes gone already. There are then 30 races at say 6 minutes per race or another 180 minutes so that’s 3 ½ hours gone out of the 4. Then we need to add on re-starts and re-runs say 3 per meeting at 5 minutes – another 30 minutes so my 4 hours are up. Then of course there is the tractor racing say 4 times per meeting at 5 minutes – another 40 minutes gone and 5 minutes gaps between heats 14 and 15 – another 10. So even without any intervals during or between meetings it must be obvious that even without any lengthy delay due to bad accidents there is no way I and many others can stay and watch all of a double header meeting.

Yes a bank account will be getting organised this week to allow fans to pay by direct debit. We had a meeting with Jamie and Flinty on Friday night, and Jamie came up with the 5-1 theme. First draw will be made on August 31st against Newcastle on centre green.

Possibly the best thing to come out of last night. The two need each other. The supporters club do a great job of raising funds and if this can be used to help the future of the club then all the better.

Time to put things into perspective surely? Speedway is a dangerous sport. If you are going to ride a bike with no brakes at high speed, there will sooner or later be injuries. In this case there seems to have been a serious one. So the meeting is abandoned. So what is the worst thing that can happen to a supporter? Your night is inconvenienced. In this case, you get free entry into another meeting later on in the season. Compare that to the rider in hospital. I'm sure if you wanted to check, you would find examples of rugby, football and other sports where matched have been abandoned because of a serious injury. I would be pretty sure the fans wouldn't be saying that they wouldn't be going back to another match because of it. If you want to watch a dangerous sport, you have to be prepared to put up with the risks involved.

Full details on other channels but, briefly, Supporters' Club are backing and running the club's new 5-1 Draw. 120 numbers, £10 a month, monthly draw £500 first prize, £100 second and £600 to the club. Then they presented the club with a cheque for £1,000. Brilliant stuff.

They can just use VPN's and the like sadly. Some of you just constantly feed it so it comes back for more and more. Just simply put on ignore and after total silence it will eventually get bored and go hassle elsewhere...

I've had my eyes on Madsen for the last few years and we all have seen him beating these same GP riders in the leagues. So why did most of us think, including myself, that he wouldn't be doing this well in the series? Also, has anyone seen anything like Freddies move to miss Dudek? An amazing reaction in a split second.....could have been nasty!

irony at its best

I agree with you, especially your last point i get the feeling the team was more Martin Phillip's selections. I don't know what kind of hold he has on Newcastle and what financial clout he has in the club. Ged Rathbone is at every home meeting. Interesting to see if he would get involved in the club in the future.

Where's the pot holes then? Wasn't there last time I walked the track.

No ,they were actually leaving and cars driving off the car park. It took us about 10 minutes to get off the car park. I can understand some making a run for it but to miss a last heat decider seems bonkers to me

The worrying thing is, the promoters never learn from their previous mistakes. The sport is crying out for some professional people to run it.

Sitting at Växjö airport reflecting on last night - a good nights racing once the first block of heats were complete. Lindgren a worthy winner, and Madsen finds speed that nobody else can - lots of talk as to how, but that’s for another day. Looked an incredibly harsh exclusion for Doyle in his final heat which ultimately cost him his spot in the semis, but I’m yet to see a replay. A steward at the venue told us the crowd was 5,500 - but I’m terrible at estimating so I wouldn’t like to guess either way. Final mention goes to Tai Woffinden who made our trip that little bit extra special - inviting myself, my wife and our almost 2 year old daughter into the pits, allowing her to sit on his bikes and sit in his pit bay - a true top man and his true form on a bike is only round the corner I’m sure. Next GP were attending is Cardiff, so Teterow and Vojens will be a tv job - looking forward to them already.

Nope, do you have any idea how many more people won't return to Speedway while this continues to happen?

Glad I decided to go home after the Lions match and not watch some of the N.L heats., to make sure I didn't go over the 4 hour's allowed in the car park as it takes me ages to walk back. My first visit since the long delay during the Redcar meeting.........don't think I will say anything else except I hope the rider recovers quickly.

And also Ipswich rider Harris in for Lambert a Chapman controlled club these are the exact reasons why one man shouldn’t be allowed to own 3 clubs conflict of interests 110%

It has been said by someone that the 40 minutes taken to prep the track between matches and the NL riders track walk did not unnecessarily delay proceedings because it took a similar time to remove the CL riders from the pits area and to then install the NL riders who then needed to warm up their bikes. If this is correct and was known about in advance then it is impossible to stage 2 matches in 4 hours and should not have been attempted.

Sure the Panthers will have team orders in play to ensure Lynn get all 3 points and benefit buster.

Eagles look stronger with Morris in for Kennett, could easily go their way.

If following the model at other clubs (not just speedway) it will be year-round, and people can have as many numbers as they like. Totally agree this is a great move by club and supporters. The supporters have proved their ability to raise funds in the past, and channeling this ability towards funding the continuation of speedway in Berwick is a terrific move. All power to the new effort - a big 5-1 for the Bandits!

Obviously having three meetings in as many days you can make a holiday out of it but giving the distance there was a decent turn out from Eastbourne. If only Berwick could get a southern tour together as in years gone by.

There is nothing "fantasy" about this comp- i can`t sleep at night worrying about the spread and profit/loss

Supporters are running a monthly draw on behalf of the club, £10 per number, the draw will take place during the last meeting of each month, if there is no meeting I`m guessing it will take place with the winners announced on club website, supporters Facebook page, club Facebook page. It was announced that the details will appear on the various media outlets over the next day or day or you will get your information then. Great to see the club and the supporters club working together.

Well this was an evening of 2 halfs... or should I say 1 half and 2 fifteenths. Oh how I wish I'd left after the first match as so many others did, which was pretty good, the result was in doubt until the very end, lions put on a fighting come back, Scott Nicholls is a joy to watch around BP and Glasgow pretty much threw it away on the last bend of the last lap in heat 14. So after the first match I was quite looking forward to watching the cubs in action, I've never seen NL racing before so was quite intrigued as to what the standard would be and Cradley, as a long established NL team, I thought was quite a draw. The Lions promotion had started an hour earlier, and again for the 2nd double header this season ran the first meeting at normal (a snails) pace, with no seeming urgency to get the match completed, no flexibility to do the track grades when there's a natural break, some heats not even being put on 2 minutes and a couple of long gaps between races even when there were no riders having 2 races on the trot. Then we were told that the 2nd meeting would start after a short break... 45 minutes later after a swarm of tractors had tried to polish the turd that is the BP track, and was down to the base again in places, the 2nd meeting started. Well if that is the standard of NL racing, you can keep it. Admittedly I only saw 2 races, but if CL racing is riders following the leader 20 yards apart you can double it for NL. The quality of it didn't seem as good as the old 6 heat style second half's clubs used to run back in the 80's/90's And then the final nail in the coffin, again for the 2nd time this season, at Leicester inadequate medical cover. I say the 2nd time but it's probably more as the promotion still clearly have learnt nothing from the Redcar match in terms of medical cover and it looks like they're still running with 1 ambulance. They've also learnt nothing from the Sheffield/Stoke double header in terms of the pace of a meeting. No doubt the usual people will be on here again saying, nothing could be done, the first match was run as fast as possible and that the medical cover is adequate. Does the person that actually runs the meeting live in the same time dimension as the rest of us? Do they not realise that a lot of people use the Tesco BL car park and there is a 4 hour limit? factor in a 15 minute walk to and from the arena, then a double header HAS to be run in under 3 and a half hours Max. It became quite clear after the snails pace first match and then the 45 minute interval that the 2nd meeting was never going to finish as soon as it eventually started, especially with the Cubs running R/R and as soon as I saw the ambulance come onto the track after the heat 3 crash I decided to leave. It was quite a sad thing to see fans again streaming out of the stadium during a meeting and it's not the first time I've seen this at Leicester. As far as double headers are concerned I will not be attending any more. For the second time this season the Lions fans have been forced to subsidise the cubs and both times the cubs match has not taken place and both times there were quite healthy crowds, many of whom will not return.

Madsen reminds me of Jan O. A small guy who seems to find grip where no one else can. I've bet on Zmarzlik to win, but from what I've seen this year Madsen's got to be favourite.

What an odd fellow.

I hope you were not driving.

They were probably Wolves fans when they realised Swindon had Doyle and Alpen off 1 and 3. The inevitability of it probably hit home.

i take it when you talk about the knicker sniffing , you are talking from experience ! INCORRECT INFORMATION TYPED . stick me on ignore . please .

Keep battling for the rest of us, hopefully they'll go ahead with their threat and delete their profile soon...

Just when I thought it was all over.

*beep* *beep* *beep* ‘Extra’ ,Extra’ read all about it. Poole fan in underdog shocker. However, you have nothing to fear, foreverblue thinks ‘not too much should be read in to the Ipswich result as they are in free fall’. So, on the basis your mate is right, a fairly easy 3 points for you boys tomorrow.

IainB-To answer a couple of your questions the NL riders are not allowed to warm up in the car park due to council regulations about noise and environmental controls. There was two distinct similarities between last night and the Redcar meeting both involved medical incidents where riders were unconscious for a long period of time which automatically required a hospital trip for X ray and CT scans due to the length they were unconscious for and also had other symptoms. Last night the the county ambulance turned up very quickly but still took a long amount of time to get the rider off to hospital. Even if there had been two ambulances and paramedics there would still have been a lengthy delay until Spencer was stable, so yes racing could have started again but would not have been completed. There is also the extra cost of having 2 paramedics on duty does any Lions fans know any registered Paramedics or DRs that they would want to help out ? In these situations the question was asked before but no response

Kyle Newman guesting tomorrow; lots of pressure on Elis Perks now.

shelf stacking boring? - i can't believe anyone could think that way

So you are not going to Leicester again, in case there is a delay and/or abandonment? That is your prerogative, but you staying away will not make a difference to the medical cover! And, apart from last night, where it was a bit 'gate and go', even you must admit that this year has seen some great racing at Leicester. Nose, spite & face phrase comes to mind.

Hoping for good things from Thomas.,following his 5 ride paid maximum for King's Lynn on Thursday.

Were they actually leaving or just getting near to the exit ready to run for it as soon as heat 15 finished? I know people do that at Leicester, also Coventry in the past.

Either that or simply don't reply. The same effect eventually.

So, how many ambulances do you think they should have in attendance? How many Paramedics, how many spare tractors?

Not quite sure if I was at the same meeting as some on here as I thought much of the meeting was mostly poor with most races either from the gate or over by the end of the first lap on an ultra slick track. Berwick dominated throughout and were very worthy winners, sadly for Eastbourne only guest Nick Morris gave any real trouble to the home side, Kerr never really got going while Lawson started brightly but faded badly. Best wishes to NB Jacobsen on a speedy recovery from what looked a horrible accident.

Don't think Jon Cook goes to away matches

Charlie Spinks winning heat 3 of the Silver Sash Scratch race on 26th May 1928.

And your comment is about as dated as on old BBC computer as graphics come very low down in the success of the most played games in the world these days. This game is all about playability and enjoyment, graphics utterly irrelevant.

Hoping to get a 12 day ban commencing 1st November?

Must be one of the biggest scandals in modern speedway, that teams were paid £100k a season, and many of them did nothing but spend it on one rider for a season. The long term things you could do with that money.

It's all very reminiscent of the debates about the Big Five in the old days. It was generally reckoned that the most gifted and most talented.rider was Ronnie Moore and the most spectacular to watch was Peter Craven, but for sheer determination and the most successful were Ove Fundin and Barry Briggs, both of whom would figure in most people's top riders of all times above Moore and Craven. It is all a matter of opinion and there are no right or wrong answers and depends on what it is that is regarded as the true mark of the "best".

People have short memories .. Rosco record as GB manager has been outstanding before today We had two medals in the last two years . But now he has to go after having the best rider in the world missing and then having his other best riders carrying iinjuries . . Yet again just because Woffy is a great speedway rider does not mean he we be any good at running uk speedway of picking the side etc etc sport does not work like that .