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Before Speedway finally dies a slow death, can't promotors see that FRN is not working and causing financial suicide to many clubs. Speedway should be run on any night/day that clubs think is best to get crowds in.

And if I am correct my cousin Martin Elliott finished last in the last heat, and is proud he was the last rider to officially ride the track

That and grafting in the track shop were the best shifts he put in all season Regards THJ

I also concur (for what it's worth). The makings of a fine team there.

38 has made the product inferior. We need to go 40 points at least, preferably 42.

Not fair... I didn't really know what I was voting for... So therefore, I want another vote.. And I also demand at least three years worth of prevarication before the original decision is finally verified.. Or isn't..... Anyway, just got in, popcorn freshly popped and ready... Good thread this...

Give or take a few quid and notwithstanding the public liability insurance risks for bouncy castles, there are some sound suggestions here. But, it's all pretty worthless if speedway takes place on a school night in the middle of the week. Straight away you are restricting the number of potential customers. Football, Rugby Union, Rugby League, Ice Hockey, Netball, Basketball all have a core schedule for the weekend for this very reason. What makes speedway so special that it expects to entice families out on a school night every week? If ever a sport needed to widen its net, it's speedway. British speedway needs to be honest, cut its cloth and stop working itself around Sweden, Poland and the GPs and go for the weekend crowd. If that means we lose a few riders on the way, so be it. Let's face it, bending over backwards to accommodate riders demands isn't working now. So what is there to lose? You would more likely get greater commitment from riders who put their UK team first and foremost and we got that stronger team identity we all crave. I think speedway works best as a team sport, but I would incorporate much of the above alongside some other track-based sport...sidecars, quad bikes, flat track perhaps and give the families a full 4-5 hours entertainment on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon.

Be good to see Shovvys posts in this section, shame Newport aren’t running anymore !!! sadly, he will bring the dross out of the Poole threads with him like Lisa the full time mummy and Skidmark . Not to mention Starman.

At first I didn't like the look of that team, but having had a long thought about it, I dont reckon it'll be as bad as people are making it out to be.. Auty wont be number 1 after a month, Danny will only improve, Jake is number 1 quality and Simon will mentor Jordie.. Tero had a really good 2019 and feel like he can kick on in 2020, just which TJ would we get

We wanted him as he was on a sub 7 average and knew he would add to it. That's how it is meant to work is it not.

We only signed one fantastic heat leader the other one became fantastic

Who is it causing financial suicide to ? we were told that guests and rr were causing this financial suicide ...Of course if we change back people will then moan about the riders missing and the reason they are not going . FRN has been one the best things to happen in recent years imo.

Good luck with that!!

I seem to remember that you even had 1 of this years team turning out most weeks during the winter helping with track work, cleaning, replacing ready for this last year.

Watching the replay and at no point did Wright have both wheels over the white line

But it's not the same comparison. Moxey can still have a passion about speedway without going to the meetings. How many football fans say they are Man United fans, but never go and watch them live, but may still have an opinion about the club.

But to be fair, even if Moxey went to speedway, it wouldn't change the sports fortunes here in Britain. The sport is on life support here. We can all say the glass is half full rather than half empty, but you still don't have a pint!

Inferior to what ? The PL it’s supposed to be!

Practically they are 100% why Somerset Speedway are in existence, nothing technical about it!

Great meeting with proper racing in most heats,congrats to Leicester on a well deserved aggregate win. I was sat next to 2 Leicester fans whose first visit to the NSS sent them home very happy. Full of praise for the NSS. Come on promoters, give riders tracks that give them confidence to race,and see whats happens to the attendance.

Speedway could learn from chocolate, tasted for the first time how many go back for more chocolate,, chocolate has also moved with the times to keep relavent. Cider did the same, now gin is doing it, it's giving the customer what it wants, by investing in itself and moving on. Speedway needs to be more like chocolate and gin.

Leave him alone; he's on a "roll". You don't "knead" to ridicule him, he just wants a "slice" of the action.

Where does the money come from to attract this sort of team? Attendances overall are probably down, that is not because of a lack of world class riders, maybe a small % is but you would need to quadruple attendance to generate a gate to even consider having 2 world class riders in the same team never mind 6 Poland didn't grow through promoting the sport and offering value for money in terms of ticket pricing They grew from local government backing, tv backing, a shed load of sponsorship, in fact polish speedway could give tickets to fans for free and survive healthily... No TV company will give British speedway the money to compete with Poland, they had that before and failed to utilise it. The next 5 years is all about watering it down as much as possibly year-on-year offering the opportunity for younger riders to progress through the divisions and hopefully after 5 years we have a batch of 16-23 yr old riders who are making up 50% of most teams.

Here what your saying. However, I would think though there are enough fundamental improvements that most fans would sign up for, and by their implementation would make a clear, positive impact to crowds.. Running on the best days/nights for your customers to attend rather than planning your opening hours around your employees availability must see an improvement in crowd levels surely? Also running regularly during the warmer, dryer summer months, when the kids are off school, must deliver better crowds than running in dark, cold, damp October? And running finals staggered through the season must also help with crowd levels and rider availability too, rather than cramming them all in post September on random, cold nights, using guests (which devalue the competition), to beat the season dead line? And finally, running the sport with credibilty and integrity must improve crowds simply as those who don't any longer attend due to amount the contrived meetings put out far too often, would go back to attending again.. As you say, many are the varied ideas in how to improve things on here, some almost wish lists, but these four suggestions are pretty much standard, basic business practice rather than any re invention of the business wheel.. In summary... Open your doors when your customers want you to, at the optimum times for them to use your services so maximising your sales... And then ensure that what they are buying is something they can trust and believe in and want to repeatedly purchase.. Pretty basic stuff..

Yeah it's a pity his racing didn't match his groundworks duties ha

...because the club promoters know what was proposed/agreed at the pre-agms but the fans including myself don't!

or do a Glasgow and sign two fantastic heat leaders and then fill in the blanks with poor second strings and two , two pointers .! standing by

Honestly May be because they don't have another 5 names to give!!!! Regards THJ

The customer wasn't shopping. He was being given free products. When that free product was taken away he didn't want to know. Your business would be better off without the freeloader. As for 'no one would waste time'. Clearly he does. Lots of it. He even wastes energy and costs himself money by having speedway on 'in the background' but refuses to watch. He's even stated he wouldn't watch it on TV if he was paid. So tell me, how can he comment on the current product, the standard of racing etc if he DOES NOT WATCH. The answer is he cannot. His opinions are 100% absolutely worthless. The ramblings of insanity. Remember, he is paying NOT TO WATCH at the moment, it doesn't get more insane than that.

King and Howarth double up already and three of the first four named have PL averages that may preclude them from the CL. Huckenbeck, for example, would be 8.85 and Nilsson 11.41. Do you really see Aspgren and the last two as heatleaders? That leaves Rene Bach!

What does it matter if I don't go to speedway anymore, but still have an opinion? Perhaps the answer is my opinion clashes with yours. Just stick with people who agree with you, and the spot will continue to flourish.

NBJ,Ben Barker,Paul Starke, Tom Brennan, Josh Bates,Victor Palovaara, were all above 6points when they were dropped or injured.

There are thirteen 3 to 6 point riders from the CL this year who finished the season without a club, due to injury or being dropped. There are none above 6 points. How will the two extra clubs get heat leaders if the points limit stays above 40?

Agree - Wright, Riss, Stewart, Andersen and 3 others, would be fine by me.

Sheffield United, not plain "Sheffield".

'You've got to search for the Aero inside yourself' M People (1994)

Dave Allen (sp) (There was another who lasted about four weeks, but I can't remember his name!)

41 is the rumour

Gristly I’d imagine?

Good News indeed.

Would it be too sensible to assume the money the top league are getting from Eurosport that they went out and say bought 3 track covers between the league something useful or getting some actual decent grading equipment instead of wasting it on riders like they did with the Sky money.

I've been to Elgane. This season we had racing at Hyvinkää, Varkaus, Haapajärvi, Kuusankoski, Seinäjoki, Kauhajoki and Pori. Pori is to close now, highly unlikely Yyteri see's another speedway bike but I'm told a new track is coming and happening. To these you can Nokia that had meetings in 2017 and 2018 and for the opener at Nokia we had our British friends from Felixstowe and also a fellow from Hungary. Lahti was closed sometime ago but Kaanaa/Tampere was used for practise again this season after a loooong break.

If you went out and asked. 100 no speedway people who would be able to name the top 3 riders in the world? There are no big names in speedway only who speedway fans perceive to be big names.

No wonder a lot of people don't bother posting on here anymore when you just get ridiculed. Perhaps best not to bother replying at all if you're not interested, especially when sentences don't make sense anyway. What's the other yeast? Are we talking about bread now?

I was in a position of knowledge, I doubt you were; which is why I was asking if you did actually have any facts to support your allegation of ineptitude or intractability.

Well if that isn't the case ,then will you tell us all why Mick Horton didn't complete the deal to take over the stadium lease after he stated on more than one occasion that he had an agreement to do so?

I was most impressed with Brennan when he came to Perry Barr before his accident. Wish him well although I don't think it's any surprise Eastbourne have taken him on again as that average will have scared a few off after such a bad injury. A noble gesture by the Eagles though at a time when many clubs churn riders in and out for fun. (Brummies included)

Must be talking about Worky track ?

Nothing wrong with wanting to improve on the team for next year, unfortunately Proctor’s career has only gone one way this season as we saw at Lynn. He will probably get jobs in both leagues next year due to his averages but he is a long way past his best and prone to throwing in random awful rides.

I'm led to believe that Belle Vue have already said that they want to host next season's Series Final Round.