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And enough fans.

'Amateur' means that they don't get paid - but pay to enter instead.

So why did you open with that statement? That looked pretty specific to me? Plus, it's a lie; ALWAYS "on his back"? As norbold stated, I was usually one of the first to jump in and help when John needed it. I often stated that John just needed to forget about posting stupid, contradictory, inflammatory, illegal, and insulting stuff, and everything would be fine. I stand by that still...

People always knock Odsal's level of speedway fans but it's a vast stadium, you could put the fans of any British club in the stand & it wouldn't be full, no other speedway stadium has a capacity of nearly 23,000.

Simon Wigg rode twice in the team with Bruce Penhall and five times (of the 15 matches) after the American retired in August. I don't think Wigg was used as Penhall's replacement and Cradley could only operate R/Re.

The sign of a true competitor He has a point though, Andy Smith was a very raw 16 year old to be thrown into a cup final at the time.

The four reserve rule was utilized at Belle Vue during 1982. Ian Thomas had been appointed team manager at Hyde Road during the year and introduced Rod Hunter and Bobby Beaton from his National League Newcastle team to the BV squad. I seem to recall Thomas signed Beaton for the Aces from recently defunct Hull so he could use him with Newcastle in the lower league on a bargain 7.50 average. Out-of-sorts Peter Ravn was the early casualty to make way for the reserves shake-up. Sixteen-year-old Andy Smith was also given a few appearances for the Aces. In fact, Hunter and Smith were called up for the second leg of October's Knock-Out Cup Final (vs. Cradley) to replace regulars Jimmy McMillan and Peter Carr. Both had endured a disappointing first leg the week before at Dudley Wood. McMillan was still miffed about being axed, almost 40 years later, when he recalled it in a recent Speedway Star interview.

" My one big regret is falling out with Charles. I think it was 1982, it was when BL teams could name four reserves and use any two of them for any meeting. One of my four was Simon Wigg. It was near the end of the season...." Goes onto explain that Ochiltree wanted to know the team a week before so he could print extra programmes. Adams offered him six names but wasn't sure on the seventh. Ochiltree replies "It better not be Simon Wigg". Of course it was. I'll dig out my programmes to see if that can shed any light. I know Cradley had started the season with Joe Owen as number 8, Drury at 9 and Pullen at 10 and used a number of riders to cover injuries to Andy Reid at reserve - Wayne Jackson and Bill Barratt spring to mind.

I find the threads about the not-so-great (and often forgotten) riders the most interesting of all - and heaven knows, there were enough of 'em in the 80's!

What I miss are genuine speedway related themes that some posters regularly took the trouble to post.

If a lot of people call out one person for trolling or posting repeated nonsense, that is not bullying.

Well I made £16.80 profit today, not bad going considering I only put a couple £5 bets down on each meeting... Over the moon with my first proper days betting... And I owe most of it to Jakub Osyczka in Heat 8 for getting that point!! Very glad I held off on the £10 bet for Wroclaw to win by 14+ and I'd have been in a very different mood right about now I was very tempted to put it on at the time too, but thought no, just a few small ones for the first weekend... Hope everyone else had an enjoyable evening

Not only riding but all scoring pretty well too. The future is brighter than it’s been for a long, long time.

Wholeheartedly against Toruń Lambert is a mediocre rider.

he should be okay cos being a welder he can put them back on .even if they are a bit on the heavy side !

- as the matches are on Eleven Sport 1, go to full screen and there is a small square at the bottom with 3 lines in it. Click on that and the other channels come up. If you hover the mouse over them Eleven Sport 1 comes up and click on that

http://spedway.ucoz.lv/ - as the matches are on Eleven Sport 1, go to full screen and there is a small square at the bottom with 3 lines in it. Click on that and the other channels come up. If you hover the mouse over them Eleven Sport 1 comes up and click on that

I think its high time the management ended all this guessing game. Josh Mac seems the one reading between the lines. But agree Zaine Kennedy would be my choice. Either way I think both are capable of adding a couple of points to their start average. But now with heading into 4 weeks before tapes up I would expect riders to be arriving in the UK all being well. So I dont see the point of dragging this out ? We know its not going to be a 7+ rider so we may as well just make an announcement so we all know where we stand ?

I remember tarmac starting grids and do not recall any probs, for that matter I do not recall "gardening" at the start ever being a problem in those days

That would make sense I guess... have to say that the faffing around before each race is probably the single most annoying thing for me. Personally I didn't mind the riders pushing the tapes and trying to get a roller as it adds something but the re-starts because someone moves fractionally or manages to anticipate the start are really frustrating..

Rider of the match for me. Take Pedersens effort out that team tonight Grudziadz were pretty poor

Great night for Nicki P.... No "match over" in his mindset.....

I have changed the settings to English commentary or failing that use subtitles.

That is the link that is not working today- has been good previously.

it might get settled during the meeting but usually within minutes of the match finishing as they have it inplay

YEEEEES!!! Jakub Osyczka!!!

nice winner to start Dandelion

Appears to be a problem with http://spedway.ucoz.lv/ today. I`m watching on http://www.drhtv.com.pl/drhtv-2.html

in the spirit of the forum i must preface my comment with 'no disrespect' but this is the daftest comment.

They match what you have said in your post about ZG winning by 5 by heat 8 etc , so they look like you have done them right to me

Had a score on pedersen under 12. 6 rides or not, that's a tough ask away from home

usually some good links R&R posts in the international section to watch nearly every meeting

Decent odds on Wroclaw -6 after heat 8 too

Ha ha! We did refuse to dismount the grassy bank as there was no obvious good reason for insisting that we did. We'd paid our money and the redeveloped London stadium had no outside raised terracing to stand on. A single, rather aggressive steward threatened to call the police without telling us why we had to move, so we waited it out............unfortunately the Met arrived and we were returned to Waterden Rd! I must say i was a bit hurt by Colin Pratt's behaviour as a Hackney Hawks fan.

Adams definitely quotes 1982. The context was that Charles Ochiltree contacted him a week prior to Cradley's visit to Brandon to find out which reserves would be riding. Adams said he declined to confirm and subsequently he and Ochiltree never spoke again. He mentions the use of Wigg, but as I recall he was only used following Penhall's departure and not as a replacement for one of the other reserves.

Benji Compton stands as much chance of signing for us as Danny Phillips! Macdonald is not in same class as Jake, but not many riders available, and Rob will definitely not break the bank just yet.

We're talking about British speedway, Steve; NOTHING should surprise you as far as rules - including people not even being made aware of the rules...

Have to agree. By far my favourite threads are those on years gone by, reminiscing/debating about favourite speedway eras (80s for me) and the great- and not so great- riders from those times.

The start of the Div 2 season has been delayed until May 3rd- the league are saying that this is the final delay to the season and the teams 4 postponed matches will all be ridden in May in midweek extra fixtures.

Wadim Tarasenko has joined Zielona Gora as a covid guest rider - cracking signing if he’s called upon

Now it's a "Limited Company" maybe they will work collectively to purchase/rent land to build some tracks on? Especially in areas that are reliant on Greyhound racing to provide them with a track... 20 or so BSPL share holders sharing the initial start up costs for a new venture must be a better bet than just one promoter having to go it alone... If they can buy land outright then they will have a permanent asset and any promoter promoting at that track could pay rent to the organisation rather than a third party non Speedway landlord.. Rustic Speedway initially I am sure but longer term it must be mean a more certain future by having less reliance on non Speedway landlords..

careful if you do get it, the cover might fall off

I think there must be more to your story, for the police to be involved. Bovver boots, rolled up Levi's 501 and Ben Sherman shirts spring to mind!

This season(different from last) it’s only to replace a rider who has been certified as having Covid.

I think these are good.. I've enjoyed most of them a lot.. The recent Jeremy Doncaster and Chris Louis one was very good... The only one I wasn't too keen on was Gary Havelock's really..... Lee says he's got Marvyn Cox lined up so that should be good.

Not from my view point. By contributing one is always open to criticism. The maxim is attack the post not the poster. We can all be guilty of building a picture up of someone that we never know if its accurate or a mis judgement. Jab #1 can hurt... but I still want Jab #2 PS: I like Marmite!

That's a shame OFF, always enjoyed your contributions, especially in the year's gone by topics.

I visited his grave some years ago when pasing by and I have to say when standing over it I felt nothing but contempt for him.