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Seriously though, we not even in the same league as you, so why are you even bothered? I can't wait to watch this team, it's full of racers if nothing else

Blimey - I’m half expecting to see Brent Werner signing as a mid season signing! Good to see Complin back, was quality on his day on the big tracks!

Lots of posters are quick to say no to Bates, Proctor, Sedgmen for example. But who else fits? Normally I wouldn't suggest a 6.00 man who will score 4 points a match, but of the next best option is a 2.00 junior - better off with one of the above 3 mentioned!

Very happy with that line up after last season - excited to see how Complin does after a few years out. He was a rider I enjoyed watching before he retired.

It is very pleasing that people are upset by this but on this occasion I think Blobby is wrong I think Tom will push an 8 point average , just need to get confirmation that Basso is in-fact not a Poole asset and Glasgow get him for free. Can you imagine the meltdown when that happens my jaw will be aching for days laughing.

He went back to the states and won a few North california titles. I think people often under estimate the difference in strength between a top flight of 17 teams and a top flight of 11 teams, which was the shift from 84 to 85. It meant weaker heat leaders became second string quality, and second strings became reserve standard. Arguably that's what happenned to Courtney, Campbell and Ingels in 85.

My understanding is 8 meeting’s to be an asset but 4h 4a to get a Cma. he has 8 meetings but 3h 5a hence why he is still assessed.

Tom bacon as retired

Probably waiting for cheques to clear !!

Grajczonek is European, he uses Polish ancestry to ride in Poland (who'd have guessed with a name like that!) The problem is that since brexit European riders need work permits too.

Is that a picture of Piers Corbyn as your avatar?…….

LOL. Why do you even bother.

If that means me I would remind you I was alluding to what Rob DID say and that was confirmed by two other posters straightaway. Telling the truth on here is now becoming banned it would seem,.

Lee was one of my all time favourites despite not racing for the Diamonds and his all action style will be great to watch next season. He’s been away for a long time but he certainly has the natural ability to make a success of his return to speedway. Best of Luck Lee.

Things never change on here the same people taking the same rubbish!

So it’s Lee Complin!

Came to Newcastle with a nickname of 'Tommy Gun',,, by the end of the season he left as a 'Nerf Gun'.

Hi SS BSPL don't own the name and there will be no cost involved as the matter has now been resolved Regards THJ

So depressing accurate but talk about the writing was on the wall…it could have been made last year!! When you look at Chapmans behaviour it’s of little surprise the sport has spiralled in to a big black hole. He exudes incompetence and yet he was allowed to eventually run the sport, sadly into the ground.

Andy's problem, I feel, was his style. He was a grass-tracker - and rode speedway like a grass-tracker. His style suited a track like Exeter, but not most other tracks. Like Andy, we had Alan Farmer, at Wimbledon, and he had the same problem.

Perks supposed to have retired as is the word on josh bates aswell

Glasgow promotion confirmed at a tigers plus event that they haven’t contacted the BSPL with the team hence why it remains blank.

Don't know where you get your information from? But not right.

Only thing I care about is no Glasgow riders in the Peterborough team end up with season ending injuries again.

It’s not rider related but from what I understood it will be sorted very soon.

Chris Holders name keeps popping up, any truth he could be Poole bound

Good average for R/r though.

Caused Glasgow far more issues losing ulle than it did Peterborough!! Strengthened you in some respects due to his early season form. Just as likely to get injured riding for either, no one to blame simply the nature of the sport

I think crump will Be in the team. He’s not said he’s retired again and is keen to race if someone will have him, he goes pretty well round NSS and on a low average too !

I'm not sure I'd take Bates on a 4 point average let alone a 6.20. Had too many nasty injuries and missed to much track time for me.

I think there is a habit of comparing apples with pears. There are a lot of Speedway meetings every week so you can't compare it to F1, MotoGP or even BSB where there are just a few events available to watch live each year. Personally I'd like to think that with the correct marketing (as an extreme sport that is very dangerous in my opinion) things could improve a little. Otherwise though it is like the vast majority of live sport struggling to attract spectators. We hear that the characters are no more but the more outrageous behaviour has not only been ruled out by referees but also by a more cynical public who are less likely to accept such things as being real. So many of those antics and tantrums of the past would be dismissed as pantomine and fake by todays public with this forum leading the way. I think that gradually the sport will devolve into being a lot more amateur racing where riders paying to race foot the bills and smaller teams of professional racers competing less often to attract spectators. That is the way almost all motor sport operates with a very small minority of races attracting enough spectators to be able to pay the racers.

Sorry covid restrictions deem thats not allowed unless your a politician

It is because the promotion have not yet emailed the announcements directly to the bspa, I asked the question on a recent zoom meeting with promotion during a Tigers plus supporters event

Fricke Wright Kurtz Etheridge ?????? Allen Brennan I agree about Jye in the 1-5, but wouldn't surprise me to see him there. We could see him and Allen swapping places into the season anyway, as the latter has what it takes to be in the main body of the team. The above would leave 7.00 for the last rider.

I think both Courtney and Blackbird lacked the application...both very able though. Andy Campbell had a really good 1984 with Exeter, but it was a lot different being a big fish in a small pond than riding at no1 for the Aces. On paper all looked good signings....but didn't work out that way. The same year, Aces were in for Sam Ermolenko when he was out of British Speedway, but I think were put off by the terms. We got Eddie Ingels instead!

Bet youre fun at parties

Just trying to be friendly J never nice too have no friends, if you need to talk there will be some Edinburgh fans free.

Yeh, I know. One thread to be avoided for exactly that reason.

that's the first hour of the first lesson on the first day of business school and yet its ignored by so called 'business men' running the game

In that case you are advocating a form of ‘ rider control’ that will even out the riders over all teams? That used to take place back in the day when promoters had the welfare of the sport in mind and supporters turned up whoever was riding. Maybe is these desperate times a similar system needs to be reintroduced for the benefit of all teams - however money takes precedent now.

The question you need to ask is “Are Oxford a new trading company?” If so you can’t get visa’s for new EU riders for 12 months (Like Poole for Basso) until you have a set of trading accounts. This is apparently what hammered Newcastle last year as quoted by others. You rely on existing riders from other clubs you want to loam them out otherwise.

As you well know no one has wanted Harris for several seasons !! And the topic was not about Poles specifically but about the Premiership standard being wonderful - which any sane person knows is not as good as Extraleague, E Winner and Sweden.

Aside from what may or may not have been said publicly (and my recollection is that Ben did say he would love to return if the fixtures could be sorted out?!), the only people that actually know for sure are Ben and Matt/Danny Ford - plus possibly a couple of his Poole sponsors. So we've read Danny's comments and now we await the Ben interview in a forthcoming Speedway Star. Then it'll be 'make your mind up' time! PS. As much as I dislike giving £2.50 every meeting to Stadia UK, I do however still use the stadium car park as the old legs aren't what they used to be!!!

His bikes retired in 2013.

Speedway racing can be the best form of entertainment. But going trackside to watch the spectacle becomes slightly samey if you don't have a dog in the race, a team in the true sense of the word or a favourite rider. How can you possibly turn up at a track and support what is often a list of seven men thrown together simply because their average fits... and the track's race day, which also allows them the to race for at least one other team? The sport has lost its characters, its personalities and, more importantly, the reason most of us tagged on in the first place - the team thing. Now it seems so much like Formula 1. If I would have wanted a sport like F1 to follow, I would have followed that. In fact, growing up, I used to get annoyed when people asked "speedway - is that Barry Sheene?" I wasn't at all interested in motorcycling, never have been. I told them it was league racing and not about individuals. Speedway was special, it was about my team, Belle Vue. It wasn't just about motorbikes. I didn't want to support one individual, as motorcycling and F1 required much of the time, I wanted to follow a team. In doing that, you got your own favourites in that team, at times not even its star man. But, now, speedway isn't anywhere near that. I see riders gaining the most from it nowadays and get the feeling they'd ride anywhere. It isn't about loyalty now. They just want a team place for next year. Maybe it's always been the case. But I genuinely think the way the sport has gone in the last two decades - an over reliance on doubling up and down, has killed off the team thing that most fans fell for. Although it's seen as being popular, the play-off system has also killed off reason to have six months of warm up matches just to get there. Then , after a few matches of higher than average crowds that the PO Finals drag from indoors (where've they been all year?), we end the season thinking the sport is in better shape than we thought.

I've just re-read the book on Tommy Jansson. An excellent, if somewhat poignant, read with many references from different sources. It's clear that many of his rivals held him in high esteem. The likes of Briggs, Mauger, Michanek, Persson, Nordin and Collins all thought that he could have reached the very top. Ivan summed it up perfectly when he was quoted as saying "...that Tommy had everything but luck!" How true.

He’s pretty much saved Birmingham Speedway. That’ll look good on anyones CV. Personally for doing that he deserves freedom of the City.

Adam Roynon. When he rode for Birmingham in 2009, he was obviously going to the top; he was faster than Jason Lyons, and not many were that! But then he got injured .. again and again ...

Why would anyone want to continue to work for an employer that failed to pay them?