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Honestly The real answer is I don't know for sure as I was under the impression that he/the club was bound under the old Bond remit of £15k not the new one you have quoted above; however and I don't know how true this is; I was told that he was losing around £5k over a pair of meetings home and away, So if that figure is correct that means he was still going to lose another £42.5k approximately to the end of the season with the 11 league matches he had left and then there was the 3 + 3 summer trophy meetings to do; so 17 meetings in total. Therefore if the Bond was £50k he has in effect lost another £7.5k by folding the club now and not completing the meetings; because he could have got his Bond back at the end of the season if he pulled out then... but if my guess is correct and he only has a £15k Bond to lose that means he actually saves around £27.5k by not running the meetings... makes perfect sense to do what he has done to be fair.... although finding another £30/40k in the grand scheme of things to run to the end of the season and not be branded "JER the Mug" could and would have been found if he had reached out AGAIN... after all... he wasn't shy last season was he? However @KEITH M has made some very valid and salient points which I wont go over "per se" but the questions he puts forward are "where has all the cash gone"? as described by Keith... the big sponsorship deal boasted about; the big meetings that drew in bumper crowds last season (Birmingham over £22k admission alone before food and special deals upstairs were factored in)... makes you wonder because the fans done their part for sure... makes me wonder anyway... I put the link up below a few months back and not one of the "Gob Chites" the "Bar Room Accountants" who tried to defend the previous showers total disregard of the VAT laws by stating "as fact" every possible scenario they could to defend the indefensible... has had any comment on the "01 Jul 2021 Micro company accounts made up to 30 November 2020" entry; not one of them... which make fantastic reading by the way; and I for one can't wait to see what comes out on the 01 Jul 2022; Micro company accounts made up to the 30 November 2021; not long now... and then of course the 01 Jul 2023 Micro company accounts made up to 30 November 2022.... what a bed time read they will make... https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12324842/filing-history It was all over when he picked the team he did... he wanted to bring his old BFF Stoke pal back (which he tried to do the first year and was told it would be a disaster) because he had a low average and would be a steal and 10 year ago had an average over 7... so what; and again James Wright had a long time out and he hasn't set the world on fire since coming back and it also took him a while to settle in... JER couldn't negotiate a deal if his life depended on it... Even the "die hard" diamonds gave him a chance (and the fans have been superb by the way) however after watching the team in the Stoke challenge match they knew it would be a long hard season... JER must have flipped a couple of burgers over his eyes because everyone knew and could see what was happening but that clown... Since coming back in 2009 I have pumped over £110k into the spot in sponsorship which to be fair isn't a great deal in the overall scheme of things but its a hefty enough investment not to feel devastated at the position we now find ourselves at... and I thought by not attending this season that I wouldn't feel to bad if the club did go "Pop" but to be Totally Honest; "I am absolutely gutted" that it has ended up like this after all the "Billy Big Balls" talk of how easy it was going to be to run a Speedway Team and then to just pull the plug and walk away... To all the Diamonds fans I am really sorry that we are in this situation because you have tried and you have supported some pretty useless individuals over recent times and I feel sorry for Dave Tinning who is on holiday at the moment and totally blameless in this fiasco... I hope this hasn't ruined your break too much buddy... lets see what next year brings because JER states he is pulling out now to give someone else the opportunity next year... I will save my thoughts on the reasoning behind that "little Gem" for a future post... Regards John Oh and as a footnote to @proud panther Buddy if you had burger trailers for 10 years, and they wouldn't earn you enough to subsidise a Speedway business, your sellers were stealing off you marra; because if you run 10 burger vans properly you could subsidise the national debt never mind a Speedway team... trust me... THJ5 points
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I can tell you there no excuses you would have got all four points if Palm toff had not had to withdraw from the meeting4 points
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The late call off didn’t just cost Newcastle it cost Plymouth as well programmes all printed now useless, food ordered now can’t be used ie pasties and the like paramedics private company used I believe they would need paying so how much has our promoter lost out he’s maintained a dignified silence but if it was me I’d be raging.4 points
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Good luck everyone for tomorrow and the rest of the season. You've put a very interesting and entertaining package of events together again, well done to you all.4 points
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This is all aspirational though, AEPG have many hurdles to overcome to get what they want, which will be as many houses as possible and locals know only to well how slow the planning process is in Peterborough. Even with 1600 houses which will result in 4500 to 5000 people and probably 3000 cars, good luck with finding placements with schools, doctors and dentists, and for sure the roads surrounding the area will not support that increase in traffic, it barely supports it now when major events are held in the Arena alone. I have spoken with the local Green councillor on several occasions, she is extremely supportive of Peterborough Speedway and I opened up communication channels with her and the promotion a while back. The last time I spoke with her she was adamant that the Speedway club be rightly looked after properly and 50 years of heritage be preserved and continued. Whether that happens or not obviously depends on many things. It’s all a bit of a game right now in my opinion, but suffice to say I doubt very much that the plans released yesterday will have very little resemblance to the finished project.4 points
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He has only had 18 home meetings in them near couple of years( including a double header), 2 of them were opening meetings of a season so the crowd was “ healthy”, 4 of them were against local rivals Redcar, so the crowd was “healthy “ , 3 or 4 of them meetings he had the begging bowl out, so fans helped him out He allegedly had major sponsors this season and he has hardly had to pay out any points money over the last season and a half and his burger vans have been taking money aswell3 points
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Trees I get that you're passionate about your speedway, but when are you going to take your rose tinted specs off?s Whenever someone points out a major issue with the sport or something major happens to further show the extremely poor condition of the sport in this country you always comeback with something along the lines of its always been like that. It hasn't though the sport is now down to having fewer than 100 riders in this country, less than 20000 spectators weekly & no major income from outside. Added to this no strategies to improve the product or entice new comers. You have riders who want to be full-time professionals earning enough money to support themselves from their racing all from a sport who's total home attendances which are less in number than the average away attendance in league one football. Newcastle closing is not only sad for the Newcastle supporters it's also another major blow to speedway in this country. Until people within the sport wake-up & smell the coffee & decide to do something the sport in on a downward spiral towards being no more in the UK.3 points
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had good view of lawson taking out palm toft was a disgusting move,well done to gary may best manager in the league2 points
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I think you're right mate,glad some Poole fans are fair2 points
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Plymouth very, very unlucky tonight. Poole made very hard work of grabbing a draw against a 5 man team, at least after heat 6 anyway. Plymouth would’ve won with Palm Toft by a good 4-6 pts if it wasn’t for his crash. Fingers crossed he’s only got away with concussion (as per Mark Phillips when interviewed).2 points
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Reading some of the comments on hear it would appear that he has thought he could take the supporters for mugs, made 22k from one meeting when closure was threatened and thought he could put a sub standard team out and the supporters would still turn up in droves because some speedway is better than no speedway and he would be quids in. the simple fact is all he had to do was put a team together that could be competitive at home and decent on their travels and the crowds would have remained as there was a feel good factor at the beginning of the season but that soon disappeared Rob has put his money in and probably lost a lot but to be fair most of that is his own doing2 points
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I hope you and associates are successful. One thing the last 10 months have shown me is how easy it is to ‘forget’ speedway. Saturday nights have revolved around Arlington for almost 20 years but with no other speedway in the vicinity, other things have taken its place. I no longer log in to this site or the BSPL to see what’s going on, I have no team to support. When I watch the coverage on Eurosport I can see, as an outsider, what a challenge it is to get folk interested. The meetings are drawn out and take far too long. Sam Ermolenko is not very articulate and for all his experience hopeless at media duties. Kelvin Tatum is brilliant, knowledgable and well spoken but unfortunately he is one man band. Abbi tries hard but overdoes the enthusiasm a little. It really does show that speedway is a spectacle that needs to be experienced live, the sounds, smell and sheer speed cannot be captured on TV. I, for one, will be beating a track to Arlington as soon as you are up and running. Good luck.2 points
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He's probably a very good businessman outside Speedway, but his choice of number 1 and the reserves really does question his judgement, when it comes to Speedway, all he had to do was assemble a Team that could finish mid table, and win the majority at home, shouldn't have been that hard, as Newcastle always has had a massive home advantage, they have a good, loyal fan base, who would have supported a half decent Team.2 points
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The playoff spot was lost in Heat 1 against Redcar when Jye crashed.2 points
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Maybe your burgers weren't too good No, am sure a heard that money from the burger van was being put back into the club, could be wrong tho. But agree that money must have been lost.2 points
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Imagine the shock at the choice of guest. Could knock me down with a feather I'm so surprised lol. Tbf based on this season's form Oxford now strengthened with Harris at no.1.2 points
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Given that the Stars have had seasons with zero home wins, 2021 wasn't as bad as it could have been - and 6th place is in the top percentile of their all time League place finishes2 points
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Peter Craven was seeded direct to the 1956 World Final; Barry Briggs was seeded direct to the 1958 and 1959 World Finals; Ronnie Moore was seeded direct to the 1960 World Final.2 points
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What about the likes of Dave tinning who has put up his hard earned cash you would suspect and a couple of main team sponsors where has all of their funds gone and the reputed 50k investment at the start of the season…..where has that gone2 points
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Agree to a certain extent, but he alienated a lot of people who had worked really hard for very little reward from the previous promotion. When he looks at what he could have done better, he might agree with me. on the other hand, he might stay stubborn, & believe I am wrong,2 points
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I think the Referee was correct to put blue out in the first he lifted going into turn one & the second incident the riders clashed out of the start & did not get apart unsatisfactory start was a correct call. we all slam Referees but they have to make a decision on what is in front of them, It's very easy to say from here on turn 1 it's this or on the back straight I saw this but the Referee sits in the same position at almost every track.1 point
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All streams are biased! You just have to take it a bit I'm afraid. Better than having no stream! I found the Plymouth one biased but I didn't moan about it.1 point
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I’ve kept quiet so far tonight your a disgrace Lawson and any Poole fan and I have respect for all of you try and defend him you will drop in my estimation to resort to that is shameful.1 point
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Frustrating very frustrating just as well there is no betting at Speedway tracks you would lose a fortune trying to second guess this team. Inconsistent is an understatement.1 point
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Haven’t a clue where his Burgers come from.If a Butcher can’t make more money by producing his own burgers,the last thing he should have done was buy a Speedway Club.!! The Andersens at Berwick certainly made their own.1 point
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You obviously haven’t seen him ride his lawnmower for the last 2 season,turns up about 5 minutes before start when feels like it.Such a wasted talent throughout his career.Plumbing and fishing is his game.1 point
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It’s not a gamble,just don’t pile the muck on the track.1 point
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Does Vissing intend to ride for the Brummies again this season. He hasn't ridden since the home meeting against Poole on 25th May.1 point
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The turbo twins weren’t racing in the early days of Sky tv. They only started riding together in 20101 point
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Tbh I don't think I would. Let Pearson gain as much experience as possible, not just with speedway but with life experience too. It could just well pay off next season. If Clegg was going to be the difference between making the play offs or not, then worth considering but I don't think that's the case atm1 point
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That would be desperation for any Team involved.Waste of space since he returned.Again interesting what kind of money these NDL guys earn.Not that you will ever find out.! Complin won’t be turning up for £10 a point.1 point
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Like everyone else on this thread, I’m saddened by the demise of the Diamonds but wouldn’t shed many tears for the owner. Whilst at the start of the season he was seen as the hero who saved the club and promised to take them forward, it became apparent early doors that this would be one almighty struggle. It has been said that a team that can at least compete at home and provide entertainment was fundamental to attracting the necessary numbers through the gate. Averages don’t always tell you everything but it was clear that the team assembled comfortably below the initial team building limit, was always going to struggle. Perhaps finances dictated the quality of riders that could be attracted. If that’s the case, from a business perspective, what was the revenue strategy unless lucrative sponsorship could be attracted? If you cannot or are not prepared to push the boat out with the best advert for the product you are trying to sell (an attractive team) you are doomed to fail. Why does it have to get to the donating/begging bowl stage? If Mr Grant is happy with the ‘it least he had a go’ crowd and doesn’t mind being out of pocket he may sleep easier tonight.1 point
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The majority of teams that been having financial issues are Championship teams. The Championship standard is too high, mainly because doubling down has got out of control and the difference between NDL and Championship is too big with NDL riders struggling to get Championship teams. The standard of Championship needs lowering, doubling down needs reducing, teams like Poole, Glasgow etc should be in Premiership.1 point
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Yesterday was the funeral of club stalwart Chris Ellis which as expected was very well attended for a celebration of her life. Just wanted to say that Danny king and Ritchie Hawkins attending the lunch time funeral making the effort to come from Peterborough to Ipswich and then back to Peterborough for our meeting. They made me proud and deserve praise for their efforts and we really do have a very special club with fantastic staff and fans. RIP Chris xxx1 point
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Are you so blinkered with Kings Lynn that you don`t know that Plymouth race on Tuesday`s1 point