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Imagine the meltdown from Wolverhampton if Lindgren signed

Speaking to him a couple years ago he wanted 200 grand for it. Lol

Could we please leave politics out of a speeway thread and concentrate on the new season, and that goes for football too, mon the Glasgow Tigers

“Witches still hoping for a happy ending” is the headline in the Witches part of the Speedway Star…

He hasn't had a long running feud with Belle Vue at all. He fell out with Perrin at the end of the first season at the dog track and enjoyed cordial relations with Mole/Thomas and Mort/DG subsequent to that. To his credit, he supported BV at lots of events with his bike collection and other items. The idea of a 35 year long feud is patently not true. He was a regular at Belle Vue as you stated and flitted between the UK and Australia at that time. There was no feud over 35 years. PC came and went and did not take an active view aside from the casual visits. He was welcome on every such visit. This started in 2015 in the run up to the new stadium where Mort and DG made noises that the free list needed a big review as it had got out of hand. PC self appointed himself as the champion of the issue and started issuing demands that 100's and 100's should be allowed in with guests otherwise he was not attending. Many interpreted this as a noble gesture but nobody of sound mind in the Promoters/Business owner chair would ever accept the list presented. Especially as a great deal of the names were not connected to speedway or not ex-riders of any description. As I have mentioned in previous posts, he was sent 4 letters to my knowledge from the BV promotion (and have copies of all) but refused to acknowledge or reply to them. Lack of simple respect and courteousness. You cannot negotiate with a party that refuses to come to the table in any walk of life. Even after 7 years of bile and spite thrown out by him, I still believe he should be at Belle Vue despite the bridges he has burned. For his riding achievements. However, he needs to completely alter his perspective and view and take a conciliatory path. I noticed in his book that ''all Mark Lemon needs to do is go to his house and sort it out with him'' which suggests he still believes he is the 'A' aide as they would say in boxing. He still believes he holds the power position and that is simply delusional.

Maybe you should play the ball and not the man! Have you read the article and the tone of it? What you say is 100% logical. What Jim Lawrence and Neil Vatcher are quoted and attributed as saying is not. The SCB are basically telling Kent and Plymouth it's SCB or NORA league. It's pretty unequivocal. The distinguishing aspect they seem to make is NORA training is OK, a NORA league is not. They hide behind bullrubbish rather than saying what we all know as that would be smashed out of any Court of Law. As others have pointed out they want to hide behind an SCB BSPL banner to dictate to what a stadium owner can and can't do. It's a vendetta against Bishop and Widman who they fear.

Ok Mum.

Brilliant this. Love it.

Gloating? I'm an Ipswich fan what have I got to gloat about? Peterborough fans are so delicate.

I’d wait to see your final line up before gloating too much….

Absolute result this morning that Worrall is joining Peterborough! Was worried we were going to have him at Ipswich again.

Holder isn't going there fact. He has zero interest in it and was only going to ride for panthers due to a relationship he has with one of the men in MT's backroom team. I really don't think Ipswich turn up and roll us over providing we get a number 1 in. Basso at home is heat leader standard and he wasn't getting beat many times at the end of last season around the showground

1st meeting at home is Ipswich, if they have a fired up Holder or Emil as well as Doyle theres a loss straight away

Think it’s safe to say that no takeover is happening anytime soon after the classic Buster swap deal (MPT for Worrall) Holder & Tungate would’ve been the perfect final 2.

Agree with what you say. What I do not understand is that the majority of teams rent the stadiums from landlords. If the landlord is prepared to also rent the stadium to another party what has it got to do with the BSPL or SCB. Do the authorities currently licence a club to run on a certain track or do they have a say in the agreement between the promoter and the stadium owner as well. Looking at some of the arguments used in the Star why do they not apply in the same way to Flat Track and sidecars who race on these tracks? All very confusing and you have to ask why they just cannot live together and let each get on with entertaining the public.

A drop in the ocean compared to what she awarded herself. She obviously couldn’t recall or have that information to hand though.

Thanks for this insight in to this issue. Most interesting. As I said in my post what isn’t clear in the book is precisely what actually went wrong with PC and BV and why by his negative actions he appears not to want to get things fixed when offered? Is this just about his daft free list or was their something else going on?

That's a fair point but his starting point was low. You could argue that he went from 3.36 to 3.00 in the Premiership despite moving to the track with the biggest home advantage. I suspect Poole's strength at home and being in a title winning side explains in part why he increased his Championship figure. I guess the way he exploded onto the scene in 2019 at Sheffield made many people think and expect that he would rapidly progress but it hasn't happened. Same with Rowe after his first season at Somerset. He at least is scoring well in the U24 Polish league but perhaps both riders just aren't as good as we all thought.

Unless he is the heat leader......

It’s been said before but Freddy still has the effects of Long Covid, it’s highly unlikely he will add to his workload I would have thought. If he agrees then fair play to Peterborough for convincing him, I’m sure CVS would welcome the extra income also.

To be quite honest I stopped getting the Star when it became just another propaganda tool of the BSPL and mis quoting promoters and riders and generally just printing the ‘ official line ‘ and not representing the supporters and questioning those in power. If that is what Lawrence and Vatcher are saying ( if accurate ) then it is just another cover up led by we all know who, who does what he wants and not what he preaches. As for a ‘ Vendetta’ ? well I’m not sure about that but the IOW are entitled to do what they wish and now must follow the path they have chosen. I do feel it’s a great shame that they are lost to the NDL but that’s their decision. The SCB/ BSPL ( virtually the same body these days ) cannot dictate to stadium owners as to what they stage but they do have the power to revoke a SCB licence for whatever reason they choose. Basically , as we all know, the sport is in one hell of a mess.

Keeping nostalgia alive!

Would need to start a new thread for the more. A 500 pager more. You forgot the missing £600k that was allegedly ringfenced for a future referendum (no laughing at the back) that their executive officer hasn't explained its whereabouts. What's a missing £600k between husband and wife?

Apologies id missed the Hodder signing. As a numbers game that stacks up perfectly, as a team on track it looks well beatable even at home.

Plus the weaker Cook at wolves

Not enough points left for the last rider. Been informed Muff is fixed up (just shocked its at Belle Vue) , Pearson looks odds on, leaving enough space for Hodder and a 3 pointer to complete the worst looking Belle Vue side for a good few years

A little clarification is required. SCB run speedway events such as the three leagues etc. require SCB licensed officials , such as clerk of the course, start Marshall , track curators etc. Nora obviously have their own rules and regulations including sorting the insurance cover. There is / should be no issues for a track to run both events as does happen at a number of tracks now, Kings Lynn, Scunthorpe ( chairman’s track ) and others.

200 grand two years ago is a fantasy figure even then - but now with the uncertainty surrounding the long term future even 10 grand could be money down the drain.

Given that he started the thread and is a poster on speed (not literally to avoid confusion) I'd guess that he's read all of it. I couldn't make out what's pathetic about it either. Most of social media is pathetic anyway and forums have been speedway's devil incarnate for 25 years or more. Everyone knows what they are going to get don't they? It's often puerile nonsense so surely that's the starting point if you choose to read?

Having read the SCB statement dated 7th February I can see it being possible that both Sittingbourne and Plymouth tell the BSPL that either they are allowed to have the NORA and BSPL racing at the track or the BSPL can get lost and the only racing will be NORA sanctioned. If that happens then the BSPL will have shot themselves in the foot and that will open up the possibility that Mildenhall would jump ship which would practically destroy the NDL. Personally I hope that both leagues exist side by side and that both are successful as that is good for the sport and the more tracks that are successfully running increases interest in the sport. You only have to look back to the 1960s and the effect the Provincial League had on the sport leading to far more tracks opening.

This could possibly be a more farcical thread than the Coventry/Pboro thread about 10 years ago when they were going to boycott the league. Pathetic.

Of course now that Nicola has resigned the SNP are no longer in power and they have abandoned their independence policy. Woo-hoo. Eh..... Ah.....Ah

I'm not sure yet. Pedersen or Lindgren and Andersen or Cook goes unbeaten at home

Yeah sh*te

Not sure about that. Get the top heat leader in whether that be Pedersen or someone else then the top end looks absolutely fine. Iversen will be a good second heat leader (much more suited than #1) and Basso is more than capable of improving further to nail down the 3rd heat leader spot. Ben Cook could do well at reserve also which just leaves the middle order. We’ve all got those Ritchie Worrall types in the side, Wolves have his brother, we have Riss, Belle Vue Charles Wright, Sheffield Howarth/Bellego etc etc. all similar average wise who aren’t exciting but are there to do a job.

Tomlin quoted we’ll have a team to make play offs .he must have forgot there are no relegation play offs anymore .this lot have wooden spoon written all over it even with pedersen

Sad read in the Speedway Star of SCB attempts to destroy this pre-birth! BSPL hiding behind SCB as seems to be the normal. Lots of excuses about Insurance , Track License issues , Track Staff etc. It all seems to miss the point though that what SCB can't oversee NORA will and NORA have excellent track record in other forms of 2 wheel sport. The fact that SCB seem to think that as Plymouth and Kent are SCB sanctioned tracks they can't allow them to be rented to NORA seems very spurious and restraining Keny / Plymouth opportunity to generate income. Fear it'll all get very messy and delay things which is probably the SCB/BSPL intention. Don't Godfrey and Bates sit on SCB Committee also, so they can't hide!

That’s because he knocked 1/2 off his team mates off

Will Pedersen be anywhere near the rider he was before his recent injury , I know the PL is a soft league compared to Poland etc but I just wonder if he may not come back from what is a huge injury when many of his compatriots are long retired .

Pedersen was cack years ago for panthers is he gonna be better now …if somebody can show me some results of worrall having a good meetings round showground bar last season I might be swayed

I am expecting a world exclusive from Paul Burbidge in tomorrow's Star claiming that the news 'heralds a whole new era' and that 'the resignation of Ribeiro is the best piece of news since ... the appointment of Ribeiro.'

Read it again but slower.

Well spotted Salty! It should have read Clive Featherby. Duly amended !

But you have said he is not fast enough now. That makes no sense?

Too many red flags for me. I mean, giving an interview to the local press recently down in Dorset saying that he hopes Poole return to the top flight because he’d like to ride for them again, whilst also stating that it’s just “not the same” riding for anyone else here when he potentially had a deal in the pipeline to ride for said someone else, isn’t the smartest move is it? Last time he rode for “someone else” he shed a big chunk off his Poole average whilst sitting in the pits with a massive cob on and refusing to ride in tricky conditions. Would he have sat there in Poole kevlars rather than Lynn ones and flatly refused to ride? I bet he wouldn’t!!

I'd tell him that you are Peter Collins, and want to get a couple of hundred copies for your mates for nothing...

I think they have backed themselves into a corner with a friends bid in order to maximise the price. If they accept the previous withdraw why not yours? Just say sorry I received it as a present for my birthday so don’t need another. According to the rules you can retract a bid within the 12 hour deadline. Then just leave it - don’t respond.

Bugger of then. This tv show is the best thing for speedway in DK since Nicki won his latest title/they rode SGP at Parken.

Just to clarify, Redcar do not run ‘Nora’ speedway events. They do rent the track out to Flat Trackers who run under Nora but no speedway is run under those regulations.