hence why occasionally you have to be prepared to be a bit ruthless to get to the very top - Nielsen was the classic example - Gundersen was the nicer chap but Nielsen was prepared to stuff you to get what he wanted hence why he was the more successful of the two, for the record I preferred Gundersen - lovely fella! I still love the picture i had taken with him at Cradley one saturday night - not long after that he was injured never to ride again!