stevebrum

I prefer SCB's Reply! You can go off people you know!

I respect your opinion, however I disagree with the last sentence.

Fair point, then the first sentence is valid then.

Looking forward to watching that great young British rider Kacper Woryna in reserve for Coventry in their next meeting. The Bees really look after the next generation of Brits.

AFAIC the BSPA should bend over backwards to get as many top riders here as is possible because if the Polish model and Swedish model (reduced programme , same day racing) works then that's what we should do. There IS a way of making it work plus ensuring tracks that want and need more meetings have another meaningful competition on top of that. Any sport without a top level of participation is a farce so whilst any further weakening is a short term cut not having a top flight is not the answer either IMHO.

The issue with a lot of the NL riders is that they are thrown into the PL and a lot have failed. That's why the PL should have adopted a tier system long before the EL did to aid the progression. With my EL hat off you have a well thought out idea however it's one I wouldn't be interested in following without the big names.

Less maybe, so that makes it slightly less corrupt. Nevertheless still corrupt.

You are claiming you are proposing a better product? I have been watching great close racing at ALL levels year this and particularly in the EL. So there is nothing wrong with the product. How it is packaged is a very different thing however. I see close racing and a good product already. Take out the top tier and I and plenty others would disappear from watching any regular speedway overnight. Sorry to interject your positive proposal however you're quoted post above is a very bold and subjective comment with little merit.

There isn't enough riders for one big league so it's a no go anyway no matter how you address it.

Speedway is full of politics for ALL leagues. It's crazy if anyone really believes it's only the EL that is poorly run and full of self interest. It's always the EL that gets the bad press but some must be blinkered to truly believe that the PL and NL are problem free. They aren't.

That was my thinking , no doubt the BSPA will twist the ruling to suit as per usual. But my reading was that he was signed at number 8 for cover any absent 1-5 member or ride in the main body himself.

And nothing premier about the PL! Without riders doubling up/down both leagues would struggle. You could argue that without the good EL standard riders in the PL it wouldn't be the standard that it is. By name/definition/quality the EL is the appropriately named league.

All levels are messed up IMHO. If only all levels would work together there could actually be a much brighter future for all levels. EL relies on the PL, the PL relies on the EL and NL and both leagues need the NL for the future generation. The PL promoters are even more stubborn than the EL ones so they alone have created this mess and nothing will change if the line is "it's our way or no way". By the same token you can't destroy the EL because it's not working. There can be no credibility without a top tier of racing. No doubt PL supporters wouldn't or couldn't care less and sadly that compounds the issue even further as im sure their promoters feel the same. Swindon will continue Whilst the Leicester and Coventry situation I agree is a worrying one. There is a lot of speculation about what may happen with Leicester but in truth no one knows what might happen. There always seems to be a black cloud and doom impending regards the EL if you listen to some. However on the plus side there has been some superb racing reported in the EL this year and the league appears more open due to the oddities of the rules and averages. Having watched EL, PL, NL, Development league, amateur this season I can say there is still great things happening in Speedway. I will always pick EL over all other leagues as my preferred league because I prefer watching the better standard of rider. However it's only the EL that drives my enthusiasm and passion. Without it (EL)I'd become another regular supporter lost along with many others. It's those in charge that seem to make it stink at times.

Not sure Huckenbeck can be at reserve as isn't he still a number 9 who can only replace a 1-5 rider?

Either way it's doomed as the PL Is in a marginally better place. It will be the day the sport is buried if it happens.

the promotion made a lot of noise about moving up when they took over. Plenty of press stories at the time. Maybe times where different back then because it's been tried again in the 90's and failed and we had lots more riders back then. I can see why some say it's a good and sensible idea to merge the leagues again and it might appear to solve lots of issues. However it would lose any credibility and would see the sport fall into a part time amateur sport that would lose more supporters than it would gain. . You make it sound like those leagues are perfect and everything is great. IT ISN'T. Speedway in the UK is suffering, not any one league. All leagues have major issues, to claim only one is at fault is blinkered at best.

Why? Swindon will carry on at the Abbey, Glasgow are keen to move up whilst Ipswich have said they would step back up when it suits them. The sport needs a top flight of racing , without it the sport is as good as dead.

Clearly I haven't failed to see that. You couldn't have signed Stead for either of the reserves at the start of the season. Garrity at reserve with Stead in place of Garrity obviously would have strengthened you up. My point remains your issue was 2 of your 3 heat leaders. why haven't the Bees added Stead now if it's that simple to strengthen up?

There isn't an issue. Unfortunately some are not bright enough to understand that the riders on the EDR who started the year are nothing to do with 1-5 riders who can ride anywhere in the team. I even read someone suggesting PK is making lots of money as FTR. Sadly some are clueless.

KK at 1 is dodgy for any club in any season. Harris no issue. King as H/l is an issue. Woryna is a weak signing compared with the amount of points you had spare. Assuming you couldn't find a suitable rider with the points spare and signed Woryna instead you suddenly assume there is another suitable rider to fill the place of Garrity. Hahahaha. PK was never an option as he has already said in press he wouldn't ride for anyone but Wolves . So given how easy you're suggestion when are you making this season changing move then?? Hahahahaha

Well that is what you get for British riders progressing! There is no point keeping them at reserve, they must have a chance to progress. The method that the BSPA used is the fault not the intent.

Howarth has progressed to main team and has a higher average. Isn't that the aim for all British riders riders to progress?? What about Klindt? Pedersen? Kurtz? Woryna? All had time at reserve due to FTR riders progressing.

Really? Even with Garrity at reserve not sure the top 5 is strong enough.

That's debatable and I take your point. Howarth is still young enough to benefit however the line between those that should qualify and those that shouldn't is very blurred. The wrong thing is leaving promising British riders without an EL place if they want it. And Howarth isn't even the top averaged FTR! Time for a rethink on the system with better planning required.

Absolutely. Correct progression is from reserve to second string irregardless what the average is. Plus keeping the race format the same is helping to inflate the averages also. Revert back to previous format (as used in PL/NL) with no protected rides plus at the end of the season take out the protected rides as those counting towards their inflated averages to give a much truer real average. It will be a lot of hard work to sort however that hard work should have happened before the start of the season instead of rushing it in with blinkers on.