stevebrum

How long are people going to keep using that as an excuse? It could be that all those issues have caused the steady decline of a world class rider (which wouldn’t be surprising). He still performs to a decent standard abroad but it’s been clear his UK form for years has been at best chequered with commitment issues.

Yet Iversen only achieved a small difference from 7.38 in 2018 to 7.54 in 2019. International averages have little to do with UK form which is more the point I’m making. Riders certainly don’t put the same priority to their UK racing as they do abroad which is evidenced by some of the most recent top line riders UK averages. (Holder, Iversen, KK, Zagar) edit. Above figures altered as used wrong year average as comparison.

Don’t think he would easily. Iversen dropped from 7.87 to 7.54 during his short spell with Ipswich, and I don’t see Holder at that standard any more either.

He was poor last time with Poole, a club he is meant to be the only club he wants to ride for. He had been in steady decline during his time in the UK 2 seasons ago. Of course if he really wanted to come back to prove a point then he would be a good bet because he has had the ability in the past.

Depends who you believe. PA said the reason behind the points limit was because they were unsure if Nicol would be a 4 or 6 (not sure what the uncertainty has been around the average as I’ve seen others suggest it would be reassessed to 5/ use his CL converted average/ be a 4/ and now possibly a 6). Im not convinced the team was built around getting a number one either. Although the evidence on the spare points would certainly point to that.

7.16 (last official average from 2017). Cant see much improvement in that tbh.

Yes you are STILL on about despite being proven wrong from the off. Some people really can’t let being wrong go. If you need any further proof how embarrassing it’s becoming just read the 2 quoted posts below.

You dismissed the examples you were given so you were already proven incorrect. As per usual. Glad we’ve cleared that up. More and more names being added but still in denial. Blue tint as per.

very similar to last year, looks decent enough to be challenging and possibly on a par with the expected Wolves line up. Needs quite a bit of improvement throughout tho to be in with a real shout. Kildemand could be all the difference tho imho.

I could do so much better if you had any credible response. I’m sure your next post will name mission impossible 2. Pure comedy gold tho.

And Holders ever declining average in the UK tells it’s own story too. Holder never liked Monmore despite him having the odd decent meeeting there. His general demeanour was he didn’t even want to try. That’s the mark of a rider who has poor attitude than anything else. The likes of Holder and KK have poor UK averages from a time when the standard of the league wasn’t strong as well.

whereas your statements change with every post, goal post changer.

In other words I’m not going to enter into a meaningful debate with someone who changes the goal post to suit. The original point that you replied to was quickly quashed by Steve0 who replied before I had chance to, which as expected exposes your comments and replies as Ill thought out at best but great for comedy value. Somethings never change, like your argument that Poole is a great track. Frankly laughable.

No worries. It will be a great shame if they let Swindon down but we have to believe they will deliver as promised.

Poole threads were always good value, comedy value anyway. RIP the comedy blue tints.

Thanks. I only ask because my dads neighbour commented that there is no mention of Wolves speedway in the new brochure. That’s reassuring then! The neighbours always use Parry’s and say how good they are.

I’m still baffled at the reason given for building 2 points under the limit. Lots were raving about Nicol last year and seemed destined for better things until he got injured so I can see why signing him was a good thing. However doing so at the expense of another potential 6 point rider (Nicholls a perfect example) seems beyond crazy still. On paper it’s still a team with great potential and keeping 6 of the 7 riders from a previous season that made the play offs should be applauded as a success but we probably could have been even stronger so makes little sense. I believe an argument put forward last nite from the management was that they weren’t sure if Nicol was going to be a 6 or 4 an odd one too. They seemed happy to include a rider really at a 4 point limit in the top flight (at a maximum right now) that could have even been a 6 and still would have taken the risk. It really appears that the Nicol signing has seen the management throw all their eggs in this basket that they would have still signed him even on a 6 which already is a huge risk. It means the emphasis is on the remaining team members to up their game which again whilst highly expected is putting more pressure to support the newest signing. Think there is great potential for improvement throughout but even still missing out the extra points seems a little crazy. On a separate note does anyone know if Parrys are still sponsoring next season? Apparently there is no mention of speedway in the new Parry’s brochure when there usually is??

And your history of moving the goal posts from the original comment I made makes any meaningful discussion redundant. As previously mentioned I stand by my comments, plus it seems you ignoring the movement of the goal posts means that you also dint understand how to reply to a post? That hole has always been big when trying to discuss Poole matters with you. Your goal changing is legendary and why I have no intention of giving your replies much importance.

Apologies, perhaps I should have made myself clearer. I was comparing only the parallel that work promised will be delivered. Obviously the NSS was a completely different ball game I get that. Its just when people try to question if what was provided as correct information is actually correct. I don’t see why it wouldn’t be. I know we are talking about different companies however note the caution of these people because of previous track records.

The stats were already done. Kurtz has the best Average at Sheffield.

Trouble is come end of seasons those number ones prove they are worth bringing back because that’s the consistency required to win the title. Kurtz, Cook, Masters already have a higher average than Holder. Not according to final end of year averages for 2017

Aah ok, thanks for that info. Couldn’t remember him riding much PL but yea I’d say in general not PL standard. That said there are likely to be a few weak number 7s next season so he only has to beat his opposite number to improve. Think he is being more relied on to do well at Sheffield, which on paper he should be the strongest candidate. I too would have said Wells however after this season it’s a huge gamble.

6.86 from his last spell at Rye House.

Holder hasn’t been a number one standard here for several seasons tho now.