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Kildemand seems a completely lost rider these days. Surprised at how poor and slow he looked this year. Bit like Chris Holder, no value on their current averages.

Strength in depth certainly didn’t work this season as Swindon proved but yes that is a good point in general. Rolling averages are probably the fairest way forward however I still believe grading is the best way forward.

My only point then is the hypocrisy and judgement that some make when they do no different themselves. If Tai felt a need to add swearing to his book then that’s his choice. By the way I don’t agree that he did however I can see it makes his autobiography real and reflects his personality better.

It’s not my logic, they are the facts. Using rolling averages may give the ‘ fairer’ overall average but aren’t accurate at all. We know the rolling averages were brought in to stop the same teams snapping up all the riders on ridiculously low averages. So that’s job done of a sort. Iversen on a 6.97 to 7.54 is below his ability so don’t see the issue. Both are too low yet both give a current reflection on his 2019 season. Remember, both averages are correct. The only fair way in my opinion is to go back to actual averages for that achieved in a full season. But I get why rolling averages are used totally. Grading (which works perfectly well in Danish league racing) would group certain standards of riders together which would be different to what is happening now. Some would say how is it fair that Doyle, Iversen and Pedersen (as example) are A grade the same as the likes of Masters, Kurtz, Jack Holder, Wright? Yet all of them rode at number one for their teams this season and potentially next season. So of course that’s fair. There will always be an argument that some riders are put in group wrongly or because the team you support is affected by that grade, no different to the example point of Iversen whether he should be using the current rolling average, his 2019 average or a GP reassessed average. All 3 points have a similar merit.

Not sure how you can compare knife crime to swearing as some sort of comparable? It’s a fair point you make that you now don’t swear and that’s perfectly your choice. Plenty do swear and don’t see it as being judged as unacceptable. Plenty of a certain generation I’m sure hold your view. So i take you have never sworn in your life then?

We are only talking about Tai’s book in reference to the use of swearing. He swears a lot, although very reserved and professional on camera. The book makes Tai real in reading which I believe is the whole point. Obviously certain words are censored on most platforms because the masses still find them unacceptable. (Although the hypocrisy of people who swear themselves moaning about hearing it in TV, social media and books isn’t lost on me). If you can honestly say you have never sworn and never would then your point may be valid in this instance. Again YOUR honest answer will give you an indication of what’s right in this instance. I hear swearing from many people in any city centre. However if you stand preaching swear words at people you might be arrested. As stated above if you can honestly say you have never sworn in your life then you have a valid point. In the real world swear words are common place.

In today’s society it’s perfectly acceptable whether we like it or not. Its written in Tai’s language so I don’t see the issue, unless it’s aimed solely at the teen market which it isn’t.

That was a brilliant night. Same here, only one I’ve been to.

Couldn’t get tickets for Tai, so I assumed that sold out?

I thought they all sold out?

Hey, no worries. It seemed assumed I would always do it! Thankfully others have stepped in and do a brilliant job. Absolutely correct. Which is why I said it’s great for our league that he or anyone of that ilk is back. You can be sure Nicki will get exactly the welcome he deserves when Sheffield are in town and he knows it. Nicki isn’t liked all leagues over (although probably not Danish league!) so is perfectly used to it and encourages it. Nicki is here for the pay check not to be liked. He has said before the booing only makes him more determined to win. Nicki knows that he isn’t liked at Wolves and he doesn’t care. That tells you all you need to know about the situation. Long history dating back to his first season with us as his parent club in 99. Let’s just say he made himself unpopular with many including his team mates. Plus he dislikes the Wolves fans as he said as much so the feeling is completely mutual.

What a success he was. However that could be the very reason why he may miss out as he would likely start out as 1 or 2nd heat leader .

I don’t think anyone does. By some fluke it will get the odd one right but that’s as rare as Nicki Pedersen riding clean.

Missed my point completely. I’ve already said NP and any other top rider is great for British Speedway. It’s irrelevant when Wolves play Sheffield as that wasn’t what I said. I said I wouldn’t support a Wolves team with NP in. You have no idea how often I go. But thanks for outing one of your many aliases. I stopped texting 2 seasons ago because I had work on some Mondays so couldn’t commit. Doesn’t wipe out the many years of texting every week and often at away matches not even related to Wolves. No doubt you are one of those who slate people who bother to actually help Speedway updates on a regular basis. Maybe you could try and do something useful for a change? Just a thought.

I’ll be asking several question at the next talk in so ŵill certainly ask about big names affecting attendance.

Of course they would. He is proper box office material and most want the best British rider back racing in the UK. Plus it’s not rocket science, the more top riders in the top flight the bigger the crowds. Nicki will add to most turnstiles next year, that’s a great thing. Ditto Zmarzlik, Emil. Woffy would certainly add more thru the turnstiles, probably more than a rider past his best.

Sure....... Schlein......... Rolling average 6.65 ............2019 7.04 Iversen ....... Rolling Average 7.54 ............ 2019 6.97 Lawson ..... Rolling average 5.78 ............. 2019 6.01 Cook ......... Rolling average 7.82 .............. 2019 7.70 Nicholls .... Rolling average 5.50 .............. 2019 5.33 As you can see some are better some are worse. A quick comparison of club websites averages and the official rolling averages will see besides a few exemptions that most riders averages from most clubs are all slightly different. Grading would bring a better reflection of ability than rolling averages currently do imho.

The rolling averages are not accurate in the slightest. But at least give a representation of form over a much longer period.

Yes, there is that point too.

Woffinden would bring the fans back like no other.

He would have to bang in 12 or 13 every week to convince the hardcore who don’t forget. I doubt we will ever see him in a Wolves race jacket again, and I for one couldn’t be happier. If he did it’s a season I’d happily miss.

Attendances down more like. Quite a lot of regular Wolves fans can’t stick him. And the feeling is mutual apparently. id never support a team with him in it, pure and simple.

I’d love it to be Freddie but I doubt it so I’m expecting Sam.

But pretty dire at most other places.

If you read my posts widely I’ve been a big supporter of riders not using old outdated averages. Fairness for ALL riders and ALL teams. They continue to use it to suit so unless that changes I see no issue why Tai needs to be re-assessed if he wanted to come back, however you can be sure that the majority would vote against Wolves getting an advantage if he wanted to come back. Imagine the uproar If he was announced as our next signing. The forum would go into meltdown!