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Is Pavlic injured?

Hey, I'm just a fan and as such have no real idea about the financial ins and outs of the club, although I believe that we are lucky enough to have a very, very good main team sponsor. All I know is what we've been told by the promotion. Anything else is purely opinion and guesswork on my part, and I would suggest that as 'shrewd business people' with a healthy fan base and excellent sponsor it would be a backward step to drop back down to PL. Its hard to argue against the view that the EL has been a bit of a political mess this season with the Cov/Pet/Poole squabbling but in terms of simply turning up at the Norfolk Arena for each home meeting and enjoying whats on offer (for a price cheaper than some PL tracks) it been a very, very good year. The club has got its spark back.

Don't agree with that, even if Kenneth and Lasse as expected revert back to P'boro I'm sure Buster will put a competitive side together. PL was good for the first few years but became very stale at Lynn, this season has been like a breath of fresh air. Can only repeat what I've said, all the indications are that we'll be EL again in 2012. I'd certainly not be in favour of dropping back down.

Recent comments from both Buster and Jonathan seem to indicate that Lynn will be staying put next year. I hope we do as the Norfolk Arena has had its buzz back this season and the racing has improved considerably as have attendances. Ignoring the political nonsense which has gone on, moving up to the EL has been a big success IMO.

IMO he's perceived in the same way as Kenneth Bjerre, although of course in a different class at GP level. They are both riders who win the majority of their races from the gate and are therefore seen by many as less exciting. However you know as well as I do that both riders can overtake if the need arises although like any rider they can't do it every time. For me they are more likely to force their way under an opponent in a methodical fashion rather than blasting round the boards while hanging off the bike which may also make people think they are 'boring' compared to Holder, Ward or Bomber for example.

Quite an enjoyable GP with several decent races, but as with most rounds this year it left me frustrated as it could have been better with more dirt down. I'm not a Greg Hancock fan particularly but he's been consistently the best rider throughout this year so fair play to him.

You reckon it would have been any different if they were the other way round? It's GP speedway, not ballet dancing. It was a hard race, they shook hands, move on.

It's very interesting how the Witches moving down and the Stars moving up seems to have benefitted both clubs. General consensus is that crowds are up and the racing better. Hope this continues in 2012

Hopefully the Young Stars can give a good account of themselves, will be particularly interested to see how Lewi Kerr scores tonight as he has really started to blossom recently. I'd suggest that but for his couple injuries this year he'd be getting one or two PL rides by now, not bad for someone who only had his first rides on a speedway bike a little over a year ago.

King Risager Poole Schramm Doolan Blackbird Heeps

Naturally Couldn't agree more on both counts.

There has been some pretty good racing tonight but as usual with the Polish rounds it could have been so much better with a bit more dirt down, such a shame.

Tremendous stuff from Lewis, hopefully he can get some PL rides in 2012

Processional stuff tonight, can recall only five overtakes although plenty of effort on display. Thoroughly deserved win for the Potters, Lambert as expected outstanding but the engine room of Sarjent and Atkin did the real damage, the former looking an excellent prospect while the latter used all his experience and rode superbly. Birks and Kerr very much the top men for the Young Stars but the rest too inconsistent out of the gate to push Stoke harder. Finally on a positive note the attendance appeared to be very healthy for an NL fixture with a fair smattering of Stoke fans, and it was good to catch up with Vog

Zagar apart there's nothing in there to set the pulse racing. Gustafsson, Vaculik and Madsen are promising young riders but don't come across as being ready yet. Half a dozen in there who have been there, done it and failed.

Great post 25yearfan, sums it up perfectly. Seems like its just one dissenting voice regarding Lambert in the NL, as you say he fitted the criteria at the start of the season and thats all that matters. Heeps certainly seems like the real deal and I'm sure he'll take the move to number one in his stride, as well as the move up to the PL next year. Maybe aljack should be thanking Chris Louis for bringing the lad over rather than annuiting with the quite ridiculous and unwarranted slagging off.

We only have Harris because nobody else is good enough. It's debatable that even Bomber is good enough to be honest. I have no idea why we only have one GP here, my guess would be that its financial. However my point has nothing to do with Britain.....Poland have 4 representatives because they deserve to and although I don't agree with 3 GP in one country it makes some kind of sense because they are guaranteed full stadia. All I'm saying is that with four Poles on show in each GP is that not enough? The authorities want to see how Darcy copes in the GP environment so it makes sense to give him a go in a country that has 3 GP and already has 4 GP riders. To get all shirty at not having 5/16 Poles seems a bit silly.

Cheers fellas

Brilliant result lads From Speedway Updates: KOPIOWANIE TYLKO ZA ZGOD¥ ADMINISTRATORA Please remember that these updates cost the texter and updater money, please don't ruin it for others by posting the score up before the updater has had a chance to update this screen All Updates will appear in this window, please feel free to post any comments below. Texter: HalifaxTiger Updater: MrMungo Buxton = 46 1. Adam Allott 0, 2, 3, 0 = 5 2. Dean Felton 3, 1*, 1*, 2* = 7+3 3. Luke Priest 2*, 1, 0, Fex = 3+1 4. Ben Taylor 3, 3, 2, 3, 1 = 12 5. Robert Branford 3, 3, 2, 2, R = 10 6. Paul Burnett 3, 0, 0, 2* = 5+1 7. Ryan Blacklock 1, 0, 2, 1 = 4 King's Lynn = 47 1. Ashley Birks (G) 2, 2, 6!, 1, 3 = 14 2. Oliver Rayson R/R 3. Scott Campos 1, 2, EF, 1, 3 = 7 4. Jake Knight 0, T, 0, 0 = 0 5. James Cockle 1*, 3, 3, 3, 2* = 12+2 6. Tom Stokes 1*, 2, 0, 1*, 1, T = 5+2 7. Lewis Kerr F, 2, 0, 3, 1, 2*, 1 = 9+1 Heat Results Heat 01: Felton, Birks, Stokes, Allott. 3-3 (57.8) Line Up: Allott, Felton, Birks , Stokes R/R Comments: Buxton win the toss and take gates 1 & 3. From gate. Allott lifted at the start and lost it there. Sponsored by www.enjaydesigns.co.uk Heat 02: Burnett, Stokes, Blacklock, Kerr (F). 7-5 (59.9) Line Up: Burnett, Blacklock, Stokes , Kerr Comments: First bend collision. All up and okay. All four back in the re-run. Re-run: Kerr fell lap 2 when 2nd. From gate. Sponsored by Steve Dixon www.stevedixonphotography.co.uk Heat 03: Taylor, Priest, Campos, Knight. 12-6 (56.4) Line Up: Priest, Taylor, Campos , Knight Comments: Unsatisfactory start, all 4 back. Looked like Knight jumped. Rain has now stopped. Re-run: Priest round Campos third bend, first lap. Sponsored by Heat 04: Branford, Kerr, Cockle, Blacklock. 15-9 (57.2) Line Up: Branford, Blacklock, Cockle , Kerr Comments: Branford by a mile. Cockle inside Blacklock lap 2. Sponsored by Friends of Edinburgh Speedway http://www.foes.info/ Heat 05: Taylor, Birks, Priest, Stokes. 19-11 (56.0) Line Up: Priest, Taylor, Birks , Stokes R/R Comments: Birks for spinning wheel. Race to be re-run even though Birks was in third at the time. Re-run: Birks inside Priest lap 2. Sponsored by Splod Heat 06: Cockle, Allott, Felton, Kerr. 22-14 (57.2) Line Up: Allott, Felton, Cockle , StokesKerr Comments: Allott and Felton inside of Kerr lap one. Kerr replaced Stokes as a reserve replacement. Sponsored by Heat 07: Branford, Campos, Stokes, Burnett. 25-17 (56.6) Line Up: Branford, Burnett, Campos , KnightStokes Comments: Knight destroys tapes. Stokes in as replacement. Stokes inside Burnett lap 1. Sponsored by Merlin Heat 08: Kerr, Blacklock, Felton, Campos (EF) 28-20 (57.2) Line Up: Felton, Blacklock, Campos R/R , Kerr Comments: Kerr by a mile. Campos EF lap 3 whilst 3rd. Sponsored by Short break for track grading. Heat 09: Cockle, Taylor, Stokes, Priest. 30-24 (56.9) Line Up: Priest, Taylor, Cockle , Stokes Comments: From gate. Sponsored by inthedirt clothing - inthedirt.co.uk - facebook.com/inthedirt Heat 10: Allott, Felton, Campos, Knight. 35-25 (56.4) Line Up: Allott, Felton, Campos , Knight Comments: From gate. Sponsored by Heat 11: Birks, Branford, Kerr, Burnett. 37-32 (57.8) Line Up: Branford, Burnett, Birks(TR) , Kerr R/R Comments: Birks TR. Good race. Branford past Kerr on the inside last lap. Kerr took exception to the move and confronted Branford at the pit gate. HalifaxTiger didn't see anything malicious in the move. Sponsored by Heat 12: Campos, Kerr, Blacklock. 38-37 (59.5) Line Up: Priest, Blacklock, Campos , Stokes Comments: Nasty crash. Priest picked up grip third bend and hit Campos. Priest up but is excluded from the re-run. Campos looks okay, too. Track good but ripping up a bit. Re-run: First bend crash, all 3 back. Re-run: Stokes touches tapes, Kerr in to replace him. Sponsored by Heat 13: Cockle, Branford, Birks, Allott. 40-41 (58.0) Line Up: Allott, Branford, Birks , Cockle Comments: Brilliant race between Birks and Branford. Branford caught Birks on inside on last bend. Sponsored by Art and Stitch for all your sewing and art supplies www.artandstitch.co.uk Heat 14: Taylor, Burnett, Kerr, Knight. 45-42 (58.1) Line Up: Taylor, Burnett, Knight , Kerr Comments: Burnett inside Kerr lap 2. Sponsored by Splod HalifaxTiger says it is probably the best meeting he has ever seen at Buxton. Some good racing and lots of effort. Heat 15: Birks, Cockle, Taylor, Branford (ret) 46-47 (58.3) Line-up: Branford, Taylor, Birks , Cockle Comments: King's Lynn off 1 and 3. Birks from gate. Branford lost it completly lap 2 third bend whilst 2nd and then retired on lap 3. Sponsored by www.unofficialscorpion.co.uk - The History of Scunthorpe Speedway ************************* Comments: Line-ups are a complete and total guess work, and will be confirmed shortly. No Olly Rayson due to illness. Line-ups now confirmed. Spitting with rain @ 2.50pm. Referee is Graham Flint. The weather is cold and overcast, and the track looks patchy. HalifaxTiger estimates the crowd at being about 200 people or so. The track is "rock hard" according to a rider. Ivan Mauger is at Buxton! Unbelievably almost unrecognised. Congrats to King's Lynn on the win, and many thanks to HalifaxTiger for the texts © 2005-2011 All meetings are copyrighted to Speedway Updates, permission must be sought and we must be fully credited before they are used elsewhere. Read more: http://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Buxton&action=display&thread=8623#ixzz1V1Hg1ie0

Indeed, a proper GP on a proper race track tonight. Hats off to Hampel, have always had him down as a GT but that was a great ride in the final. Was the only Pole comfortable in the grip. I don't think Emil is as wreckless as people try to make out, his method of passing is to get underneath people entering the bends but with the track as grippy as it was early on tonight it was a dangerous game, as Jonasson found out. However the clash with Lindback was just two riders arriving at the same piece of track at the same time, no wing mirrors in speedway!

Guest I'd have thought mate.

Anyone else struggling to get the draw through? It worked fine for Cardiff but not for the Italian and now not for this one!! Any advice would be appreciated Thanks

Discuss please if you want to See you on the first bend Vogster?

I think people get to worked up about riders not shaking hands immediately after races, as long as everyone does so after the meeting its all good.

The Poles have three GP and a quarter of the field are Polish, so they should stop being so greedy. Will be good to see how Darcy copes in a GP situation before his inevitable seeding for 2012.