mikebv

There is too much of a disparity in HL strengths.. Within the 21 HL's there is simply to much of a gap... Cook was a decent No4 for the Aces and is now a No1... Tungate is (at best), a No3, (and only at certain tracks), yet rides at No1.... Ipswich have such a strong team because they have used the UK reduction brilliantly well, but also, more importantly, they have every rider in their team in precisely the correct position to match their capability in a league with top level world stars... Not many teams have ever had that to work with over the years, therefore, no surprise they are hammering teams, as "head to head" v their opponents, from one to seven, they have the better rider.. Seven teams of seven riders has meant too many second strings having to ride as HL's for the league to be competitive...

One team too many for me given the level of riders who wish to race over here... Two teams made up of KL, Oxford and Birmingham riders would both be competitive, and, even more so, if those two teams could get a couple of GP level riders each.. As it stands, teams are missing a No1 and a No5, instead they are being made up of No3's, and even Second strings, riding in the HL positions.... Even if they had 3 x No3's they would be more competitive... The league shouldn't be diluted though as that will just drive fans away..

Not according to quite a few Ipswich fans on here they don't... Time will tell....

He couldn't quite believe how crap it really was, so kept going back for a,quick peek... Until he finally decided that it is actually really crap... Still, as many of the Witches fans have said on here, they are fine with the hammerings every week given they haven't won much for years... And these hammerings each week will ensure their attendances stay really good because everyone follows a winning team... A win win for Ipswich...

Which just goes to show... You can fool some of the papal, some of the time... But you can't fool all of the papal, all of the time... (I'll get me coat)....

Is it on Sky?😀

They need to plan in 12 home meetings each.... And, two more for the play off finalists... In just over FIVE months.... No need I would suggest to arrange meetings when you know riders won't be there, given the amount of blank Mondays and Thursdays available....

So many "made up teams" could be avoided given many meetings are actually arranged when promoters actually know their riders are already booked to ride elsewhere on that particular date... Meaning those who arrange these meetings must have no belief in the credibility of their own product... Effectively, "any Speedway will do".... The sport can never move forward over here when such nonsense is allowed to pervade..

If those who run it don't take it seriously, (as is clearly shown by their fixture planning), then they cannot be surprised if fans don't....

You can add using the same riders regardless of what league you are in too... You could guest for some other team and prevent your own team from getting promoted..😁

That's six missing...😁

Leicester running scared of Oxford? 😁

Tungate wouldn't have been a No1 five years (and longer), ago when 2nd tier HL's were No1's in the top tier... Even less chance nowadays when GP riders take up that position...

Given the Mickey Mouse state of Brum's team, it was for the best that both meetings were called off... A shame more meetings don't get called off when either of the teams cannot have all their riders available... Oxford have arranged a match knowing Magic is not there .. A ludicrous situation that actually gets condoned by the BSP and fans alike... The sport has the level of following it deserves ..

Head and Shoulders ahead of the rest... Even when "struggling" he just steps up to a level that the others cannot hope to match...

Dudek getting suckered into breaking the tapes by Woryna..😁

A good call.... There would have been (marginally) more spectator's there than riders...

That's ok then....😁 I bet they enjoyed the income though...! This year the Aces will probably face Sheffield in the semi without the need for manipulating any extra reduction in credibility, (IE no more than obviously already "naturally" exists in UK Speedway)... Although, that said, maybe this year if Leicester finish fourth and KL fifth, it may be better to have an Ipswich v KL semi? 😁 "In the interest of Speedway" obviously.... 😉

Mickey Mouse replaces me in the crowd...

Just run six rider teams in the top league if not enough of the required level of rider.. No RS's, No Makeweight's... Each race having four riders who actually "have a chance" of winning... Use the other two divisions for young UK rider development...

There are 3 teams clearly better than the other four... With one of them clearly better than the other two.. The other four then get split into pairs... Oxford and Birmingham being the bottom pair.. From the moment all the teams were announced that was going to be the case as the vast amount of comments on here clearly showed, (and Bet365's odds!) Never quite understand how, each year, after a few weeks into the season, some fans call out how poor their team are when it was "blindingly obvious" before a wheel was turned how much adrift they were from the better teams... "We have gone for strength in depth, with each of our team capable of putting a point on their average".. Translated: "We wanted to sign a world level rider as we know it is the only way to be successful, but we couldn't get one"..

And, as we know. Since I can remember, although every team starts "roughly equal", at least one, and usually more, end up, very early in the season, miles adrift of the team at the top... The make up of the teams impacts a result more than averages... Teams with "big hitters" in HT 13 and 15 are the ones who will always have an advantage v those with six or seven point riders up against them..

You can get more replacements but not of the level you need as the team is still a "strength in depth" one... If Doyle is out, you can bring in the Holder's, Kurtz, Bewley, or Fricke, meaning your team is still strong... Bringing in one of a plethora of 6 pt men still leaves a team full of 6 pt men due to the *strength in depth" idea...

Guest replacement's are another issue in signing a "strength in depth" team... By signing the No1 rider in the league you have the whole league as possible replacements... Signing riders much further down the averages reduces the quality of any possible replacements... Cook was at No4 last year for the Aces... A massive jump to No1 considering only his position in the team has changed, not his average...

Wouldn't basic Inertia impact things though, even if all start line grids ever provided the same grip? Eg Moving 10 stone as opposed to 8 stone will be take longer ... The clutch also appeared to be used far more than it is used nowadays from the starts... I remember Hans Nielsen still "feathering" it up to the first turn to keep the drive on... Starts are somewhat of a "dark art" it seems with no real perfect way to do it.. Hence so many meetings never get won on a maximum as continually making the gate every time, given all the variables, is down to as much luck as talent I would say. Horse racing uses extra weight to even up the racing, as do several other Motorsports.. And for riders to actively lose weight before a major meeting, they must see it as a distinct advantage, or, at the very least, a lessening of the advantage of some others...