The White Knight

Hope not. One of the joys of Speedway is wandering round chatting to folk.

True - but I don't think he would have attempted a comeback if he hadn't thought he could make a go of it. To my mind he was a class Rider - I am hoping that he hasn't lost that class.

Well I hope is a 9pt. Premier League Rider screm. If he can get over initial rustiness - I reckon he is a heck of a signing for Plymouth.

We don't agree on much do we orion. :)

Fair enough - that is your opinion. I prefer to believe that you are innocent until proven guilty.

Sometimes Promoters can be right you know.

From that Workington Team you can add 'Taffy' Owen. I travelled from a Crewe Reunion once in a Taxi with both 'Taffy' Owen and Terry Kelly. We were returning from the Reunion to our Hotel when 'Taffy' said - where do you live Ian - Sunderland I replied. Taffy said to the Driver "take us to Sunderland then". I had to jump in sharpish and say the Hotel name (which I can't remember now it might have been the Crewe Arms) which was our real destination. Both Terry and Taffy were true Characters, great fun and great blokes. Very happy days....

Exactly right Colin. Speedway I have stated, times without number, that should Double Points be scrapped I would return to Speedway at the very next available opportunity. If you feel very strongly about something then, in my opinion, you stick to your principles. One thing I am sick of on here is people telling me why I do things and what I think. You may be clever - but not that clever. Nobody knows my motives but me and I do not need luminaries like Oldace and BW telling me what to do, why I do things and what to think.

Errr - no. WWE Wrestler actually.

Don't get me started. :nono: That is the reason I no longer go to Speedway. :mad: :mad:

I didn't know that 'The Rock' was a Speedway Rider too. :shock: Must shine that Speedway Bike up real nice, turn it sideways (perhaps he is after all) and............ - and I guess you know the rest. :D

I'm certainly one of them. Definitely NO waffle. Very well thought out Posts with matching conclusions. I also appreciate your remarks earlier re. personal remarks. I allowed to let myself get annoyed and carried away with one Poster. I should not have done that. My apologies to orion (I do not lie though).

That is my major objection to them too. The other points, though relevent, cannot be proved 100% that is my contention.

Well that should be the end of the Discussion BW.

That's a very good question orion - one which I am very much struggling to answer. Bit puzzled by the 'One Off' World Final that you reference - if only it would come back.

If you took the over 55's away from Speedway orion - Speedway would probably not exist in this Country. Something to ponder surely. People like myself are not afraid of change, as long as it is for the better. I just do not think that the Play Offs overall have not been good for Speedway. As I said to BW earlier - I cannot actually prove my point - but as far as I am concerned, neither can/has he. I take note of the excellent final sentence of guitar_art's first class Post No: 894.

Eh!!!?

I wish Charlie Gjedde all the very best at Plymouth. I have always liked him and I hope that he does well for the 'Devils'. Good luck Charlie.

A very good and respectful Post to which no-one could take offence GA. :approve:

Ohhhh - Penfold. Penfold isn't lying - it is just gently taking the mickey. Unfortunately you seem to take that as lying. I obviously overestimated your intelligence. I'm sorry about that. How is Dangermouse these days?

Aaahhh!! Hello Penfold. :rofl: Your back. :party: Is that all you can say? Call me a liar.

There is only one person on here doing that BW - and it isn't me. Get a grip man!!!!!! As regard the Play Offs - you may be right about the Fiancial implications - you may be wrong. I don't think that I have ever argued from the Financial angle. I do have a certain sympathy for those who do argue the Financial side though, as I said, you may be right, you may be wrong - you have not proved a thing.. The whole thrust of my argument against the Play Offs is that they are intrinsically unfair and lack credibility. That is my considered view - and I don't have to call you names or insult your intelligence to put them forward.

Excellent. :rofl: :rofl:

First of all sidney - your are most definitely not a "thicko". Your Speedway knowledge alone is enough to prove that to me. Secondly - this Thread seems to be more about us all jumping to BW's tune than the original debate. I agree with you that his terminology of "I have been trying to educate you" is arrogant - extremely so. Perhaps he needs a lesson in humility.

Jolly good Post!!!! Well reasoned - polite (BW and Penfold take note). Agressive Posting does not make you right.