Hawk127

Cannot be any worse than having the same old faces who are never going to make it. Might just as well have Harris in it and a few others who are well passed the sell by date. Mix it up and put some new names in the frame. Zagar and Iversen have had the chances and do not deserve the back door route. Doyle is a different issue but in general the whole system is flawed. It needs a revamp to have the greatest number of riders eligible to make to the worlds number one and give hope to new talent no just the slap rans.

Perhaps it is time to change the format with a pool of riders selected to ride in say four GPs each then the top scorers from those GPs go on to compete in a qualifier for the final. This give the opportunity to include more riders not just the 8 plus the hand picked excuses and then with a revised format they can then be whittled them down based on form to a final sixteen where the points scoring is changed to say 4,3,2,0. Anything that gets more riders competing not just the same old names has to be good . Leon Madsen is a case in point.

I totally agree. It seems a nonsense that those performing poorly in the GP can do so with the comfort of knowing that the back door is still ajar. No rider in the GP should be allowed in the GP challenge and should only be allowed in the following year if they cannot qualify on merit in the then current GP campaign. No wonder the sport is not taken seriously.

Joint favourites, Brian Foote and Ted Hubbard particularly when both rode for the Rockets.

The GB manager adds nothing and BT sport are doing the paying punter (those now having to pay more to watch the BT sports channel) a disservice by having him sit in on a GP. Past his sell by date and an irritant to all genuine speedway supporters. Anyone with current riding experience and a personality would be better. Perhaps this is a sign that next year we will not have the BT coverage.

The wheels have started to fall off. Shame really but it is what you have come to expect following the witches, all guns blazing at certain points but when it matters things start to go down hill. Hope they can recover but until the sport sorts itself out and stops the nonsense of doubling up (one league needed) and all teams having regular weekly meetings so as to build momentum and not feast and famine then no team can build consistency throughout its ranks. One reason why so many drift away. Bring in a level playing field with machinery and matched ability in races and it might work, until that happens it is going to continue to go south.

I agree. If you could have a weekly programme either live or a highlights meeting and this can pull in events from around the globe particular in the winter months and include meetings from Australia, Argentina, USA and Canada as well as Ice speedway meetings so that it really is a weekly fix then I would happily pay a reasonable monthly subscription per month and save on BT. The GP meetings are on YouTube and even if they are highlights, what more could the fan ask for. Throw in the lower leagues in each country and perhaps the odd Long track and grass track and it could be heaven. Just need a channel or medium to deliver.

If a punishment has to be dealt out, make the guilty ride in the next x number of matches so as not to deprive the paying punter but the riders do not receive payment. The money they would have earned using an average is paid into the Ben Fund. If they decide that a way around this not to turn up then fine them a sum that is equal to the maximum they would earn if they had won all five rides and that money goes again into the Ben Fund.

Promotion is difficult given the options available and what works for some locally may not work for others. What it needs is a national advertising campaign which simply says which tracks are running a meeting on which night. For example a national radio station says “speedway coming to a track near you and tonight you have live racing at xxxxxx” Say no more and less than 20 seconds. Cost vary depending on the station but if the sport as in the BSPA rather than a club promoted, the cost could be split across all clubs. It does not take much to send out the message but as it stands no one is working as a ‘whole,’ it is a case of each looking after number one. Speedway is number one and promoters need to take this on board and start working together. All the promoters need to do is consider the options.

Is that not part of the problem. Few British riders make the grade and will rarely get the track time in overseas leagues because they are not good enough. Until U.K. speedway bites the bullet and starts inviting overseas teams to race in the U.K. in test matches on a regular basis and at all levels to test every standard of rider from 125 c c upwards including NL level then the best most average riders can hope is to possibly be a large fish in a very small pond. Forget top GP riders appearing in a U.K. league match week in week out, it will never happen, those days have long gone. Speedway in this country needs to re-group and start looking inward before thinking about competing at international level with the Poles and the Russians. Five years at least before team England is ready to compete so the BSPA should get off the pot and stop pissing on al and sundry including the supporters. Rebuild or fold, simple as that.

Totally agree. Supporters need to recognise that team GB, England or whatever you want to call the motley crew of riders racing under the banner are with one exception no real match for those who race at GP, Euro or Polish league speedway. Why do people bang on about the overseas contingent not riding in in the UK when in fact they could not give a fig about British speedway. The current state of the sport offers up the ideal opportunity to regroup and foresake all that has gone before. Time to look after number one and re-build from the bottom up. Those riders who cannot commit to weekly racing in the U.K. between April and September, go ply your trade elsewhere. Build with what we have, invite overseas teams for test matches and forget Poland, ask Germany, Italy, France, Norway, Czech, etc. and get to watch riders who will only grace these shores is these type of matches. Bring back the interest in seeing overseas riders at test matches only. Work on a U K open individual championship, and look at a league format that has riders competing with equal ability rather than machines and stop the nonsense of throwing money at bikes and instead give riders machines that are standard so that all competitors really have to look at their track craft and hone their skills rather then rely on the gate and go aspect of the sport. The sport may once have been part time and a hobby for some riders but it was much more of a level playing field when it came to machinery. Oh for the days when it was announced that a rider was using the track spare. A reality check is needed before it reaches the point of no return. To those in charge, be dynamic, be forceful and stop living in a dream world.

He lived near Kings Lynn and use to race bangers. Any relation to the esteemed leader of the sport in this country. It is unfortunate but the halcyon days have gone. Speedway is no longer viable as a professional sport and to add to the dire situation the weekend’s debacle only puts another nail in the coffin on this once great sport. If it is not too late I cannot i believe it is time to re-trench and look inwardly at all that does not work and consider regrouping and start again. To be brutal It has no appeal to younger audiences, the diehards are drifting away in droves and the riders live in cloud cuckoo land when it comes to thinking it is a viable option to making a living. If BT sport walk who can blame them. Having followed speedway since 1969 it is sad to see that the sport has lost its way and that the light at the end of a tunnel may well be another train coming. It has to take on board all that is wrong and stop burying one’s head in the sand. BSPA/ Clubs, wake up you do not have a viable business proposition and must work together to find a solution for the benefit of all. Carry on in your silos and speedway is dead.

Another outpost for the sport, not an exciting meeting, empty seats and you have to say how much longer can this continue. No creditably and you cannot big up something that aspires to be taken seriously when this is the best that can be served up. Sad really but let’s hope tomorrow offers something better.

Totally agree. Hope all the UK riders can regain some confidence going in to tomorrow. In general it was not the most exciting event and the empty seats is a shame but the reality is, few take speedway seriously enough as a sport other than amongst the ‘anoraks’ Where does one go if this is suppose to be the highest level of racing. To sum it up ‘it fails to excite, need to try harder to entertain’

Totally agree. Perhaps we should all lobby ITV 4 to make a bid for speedway. They had darts from Germany on tonight so right country wrong sport. Well done to Laguta. Be interesting to see what Eurosport do with future rounds. If they cannot be bothered, allow someone else to live stream it but stop treating speedway supporters with such contempt

Your opinion Is respected. I was responding mainly to the comment about the Europeans pairs qualifiers and suggested options that were available and offered one possible option for bringing together a range of meetings. Did it require a reply that you proffered is doubtful but that is your choice. On that note I leave you to think on.

You would have thought that if the FIM or others can put Ice speedway on a live link on YouTube or similar in the middle of winter , meetings like this in the main European speedway season could be streamed on the net. Given the amount of meetings going on across Europe, a fee based internet based transmission showing a range of live and highlight meetings should not be beyond the realms of possibility for those in the know. I would happily pay a monthly subscription to watch a variety of live, recorded and highlights and if this could extend to the winter months and feature speedway from South America, Australia and New Zealand then I would not be surprised if this could pay its way. I guess it is a case of dream on.

Is that because promoters have lost the skill of promoting the product to would be sponsors. Years back many tracks staged individual meetings with local companies putting up prize money. However I think it is impossible to get it right, some fans want to watch a format of league racing only which is almost unsustainable from a financial perspective with allegedly insufficient riders to fill team places. To fill the teams you need a cross section of skills because of rider shortage but many moan about the NL quality riders and all they want to watch is fully fledged riders in their team but do not have the patience to support those riders who need to hone their skills and learn track craft. I believe you either have a mix of meetings or go back to the 13 lap format and a second half open to reserves and second strings. What I don’t understand is that most will watch a GP or European championship meeting but not an individual meeting at your local track, they may not be GP riders but the quality of racing is just as good.

Totally agree. It needs a level playing field with fixed points money which then drives costs and if all riders participated using standard equipment and were then forced to hone their riding skills instead of being gate and go merchants on bikes that many if not most fail to control across a wide range of track conditions then the sport might get back to close racing, team riding and entertaining the punter. Until they bite the bullet and do what is right for speedway and not their own insular but contrived business arrangement where they operate on outdated business models with no idea of what the punter is crying out for, speedway will not even register on the sports radar of any potential new follower. SGP and many of the other televised European meetings as well as the overseas leagues have been given carte blanche to crap on U.K. speedway from a great height and this has been condoned by the BSPA headed by two cronies who the sport would be better off without. Sacrifice is needed for the greater good and the sooner that some of those running clubs realise this the better.

It would at least add some interest and anything that would have half a chance of dismissing gate and go complaints has to be worth a try. Why not trial it in non league so that the purists do not get too upset. Something needs to be done to revitalise the racing given the difference in skill sets of heat leaders versus the others. If the likes of Doyle (using name as an example not having a go before anyone leaps to his defence) are so good prove it in a handicap racing. They would have to work their way to the front while the lesser riders have to learn to ride defensively. It is a shame that so many interesting a different ideas are put forward on here but no one is listening and yet the basic concept is OK it just needs some added spice to make it attractive if only to give the ‘underdog’ half a chance.

While you continue to have a good deal of talent coming through the ranks from a wide range of European nations who can travel to the likes of Poland with relative ease, the Polish authorities will not give a fig what the rest of the speedway world thinks. Britain has no chance of ever getting back the status it once had as the place for riders to hone their skills in one of the best league sets ups that use to exist. That may have happened by default and largely due to the relative ease of access that riders had to the U.K. compared to Eastern Bloc countries many many years back. The FIM don’t seem to be the controlling force they once were and all in all the sport has become fragmented with different factions seeking to take care of ‘number one’ As for the U.K. they should start to plough their own furrow. Afterall Poland says it is their way or no way so why not bite the bullet in the U.K. and start from scratch. Build leagues with what you can afford with riders who will commit to ride here and also improve the ‘employment terms’ so that riders are not dumped at the drop of a hat. Build some loyalty to the team and work with them rather than treat them as commodities and most of all the clubs in the U.K. should unite to promote the sport as a whole and not occasionally at local level. When it gets to a position of strength it might then be able to stick two fingers up at the Poles and the FIM. Until then it remains a lap dog.

Sadly the days of attending Saturday night speedway and hearing at your chosen meeting the results from the likes of Canterbury, Rayleigh, Berwick, Workington, Coventry, Bradford etc. is be a distant but pleasant part of the history of speedway. In the current climate it will not ever happen particularly as the obsession with league racing to the detriment of individual meetings and challenge matches means that the choice of race meetings is limited and the new talent will not get the opportunity that riders had previously with the second half of a meeting. Sad to say but today supporters do not want anything less than league racing and that is one of the reasons why the up and coming riders are taking so long to come through the ranks. You cannot turn back time but some lessons could be learnt from the past if the sport is to go forward.

Agree. They could not play cricket either. So guess that sums up the situation they cannot run and are also rans. Who cares anyway, I lost the will to live and decided to count the number of nails in a local B&Q as it seemed much more interesting.

Do Ipswich need to replace Harris, Bellego and Lawson? If they have any aspirations I think they do but it depends who really runs the club and calls the tune. Carry on as they are and they will be also runs.

It looks dire crowd wise. For the sake of a discount they have sacrificed the atmosphere, riders will look and feel disappointed based on attendances recently and the blame lies fairly with the management/owners who have not got a clue. Sad indictment of those in charge and reflects where the sport is in this country. Ipswich management are fools as they have let down the club and the sport. Feel sorry for those who got the tickets through BBC Radio Suffolk. Ipswich speedway should be ashamed.