tyler42

Yes, I agree. Meeting won, so why not give him a run out? I think Allan's thinking was: "By not giving him a ride. "To be fair, the lad most likely would have been a bit off the pace!" So Allan chose not to use him and, in the process, it stops him getting any stick!!

That was his 1st season, so not too bad. He went on to have a good career at Glasgow.

btw, can you show me where I quoted he would only last three races? I've looked in Hansard, but can't seem to find it😉

When I said the same thing about Hausl, you replied to my post, as shown below. I thought after I posted my comments that maybe I was a bit harsh on him, considering how tight the Edinburgh track is. I half expected I would have to eat my words after the Berwick meeting. Knowing a big track would have suited him better. The updates said he had a great 1st ride. What happened in his other two? Things won't get easier for him. Up next, Plymouth. Another very small track. You're correct in your assessment of the two reserves. Hagon should really be kicking on now. Third full season in Division Two. Berwick was his home track last year. I thought he would have been your match winner. As for Hodder. imo he will have some half-decent meetings, but he doesn't look like he has improved that much from last season. Early days, though.

Yes indeed, pirates dodged a bullet there. Riss would have scored at least eight against a very lack lustered Pirates imo.

Considering Cluff has ridden in Poland for a season, then Plymouth last year. Tonight, he certainly looked like he had never ridden a bike before. As for Glasgow. I would hazard a guess and say Hausl won't be around too long. Unless, of course, he shows a liking to Glasgows track.

Could Klima not have had seven rides?. Unless he's in heat 15. May has only given him six rides? the same amount as Spencer. Who, to be fair, has only scored when there were three riders in a race. Surely Klima should have got the full quota of rides, or have I got the rules wrong?

Being on the front cover and a two page spread inside without turning a wheel in the 2nd division doesn't help. Todays young riders love the social media and why not? but if they talk the talk, then they have to do the walk or just like on here they will get criticised. In fairness to Will Cairns, I saw him do an interview on a local TV broadcast on press day and he seemed to have his feet firmly on the ground. Good luck to all the young riders. I think Jody Scott and Luck Harris go about it the right way. Both have improved without the big hype. The parents of some of these young riders can stop the hype by cutting back on the articles and big interviews, but they seem to enjoy the publicity as much as their boys.

Good old Dr Samuel Johnson 🤙

So what did the promotors in the late 90s through till last season do with the tv money?

If that's the case, Why were Ipswich allowed to race with last season?

I agree, but it's as much the top league promoters as the 2nd division promoters. Remember it's the top league that have taken all the TV money and what have they got to show for it? They don't give a monkeys about the 2nd division, so why should the 2nd division give a monkeys about the plight they are in now. If they think they can have a league with 4/5 teams then let them. It will look daft to those's outside the sport as well as many inside, but if they are not willing to come together with the 2nd division and make it one league, just let them crack on and when another club pulls out next year just have 3/4 teams in the top league.

I don't agree. The promoters are the employers. It's come the time where they have to say to the riders. ( This is what we can afford) Then the riders can decide to reject or accept. If the don't like the terms then they can leave the sport and go and get a job. If the sport has to go semi pro then so be it.

Or just make the the 2nd division Semi Pro? how many riders in the lower league make a living? Unless the likes of Hodder are on £300 a point!!! Then I would say hardly any. Yes, the No1's especially with their doubling up, most likely make a living. There might be other sports where their top league only consists of 4/5 clubs, but you can't really have a play off system with that amount of teams, can you? The sport is already laughed at by most news outlets. I don't even think you get the results in the National press anymore. The doubling up put a stop to the sport being taken serious by most. Riders can't keep living in this fantasy world. How many people attend Redcar/Scunthorpe/ Edinburgh/Plymouth etc? The promoters have got themselves into this situation. They have bowed down to the riders wants and needs and this is the end result. They have to tell the riders the bubble has burst. They should offer them a fair deal for what the club can afford. If they can't except the deal. Then unfortunately they will have to go and get a job! No one can justify calling speedway at 2nd division level professional anymore. If some riders reject the offers, then you promote the young lads from the 3rd division. Lets face it the sport at 2nd division level has been watered down so much over the last few years, a couple of more riders won't make that much difference. The majority of riders in the 2nd division worked back in the 70s/80s. The sport was also in a lot better health. The leagues and crowds were a lot bigger. Every year the sport dies a little bit more. It's been on life support for a while now. How much longer before the plug is pulled?

Why should Glasgow prop up the top league. The top league over the years have pocketed fortunes from the TV deals. Now because they haven't got a TV deal you expect 2nd division clubs to throw them a rope. I would tell them to get stuffed. The only reason the top league might only run with 5/4 teams is down to them. They stood by and watched Tolly skint himself last season and now you think other clubs should follow suit?. They made their bed. Let them lie in it.

You won the double had a chance of a treble, but you Poole fans want a big shake up. I really can't work out what more do you guys want from the riders? They gave it their all. It's sport, sometimes you lose and in most cases you won.

What you mean the ones who could be bothered to stay? As for Tobias, See Jody Scott. Swings and roundabouts both on 5-1s both fell, so did not affect the over all scoreline. Fair play to Middlo for taking the loss in a sporting fashion and congratulating the Redcar manager.

Howarth was a beaten man after Heat 15. They should have tried one of the other two in the superheat imo.

I think for pure excitement. Peter Collins had it in bundles with his blasts around the outside. I always thought Mark Courtney had a very smooth natural style. Both completely different but both good to watch.

Even though he lowered Lawson's colours in H13. He didn't really put in a No1's performance tonight did he? He got 5-1 twice, Should have beat cook in heat 15. All in All not a good couple of days for Bomber if you take in he only scored 5pts at Redcar the other night in the semi final of the cup.

Especially if he use to watch his speedway at Custom House!!!

When the home No1 can only muster 8pts from 5 rides and your No 5 can only score 6pts from 5 rides. Then it's inevitable that your not going to get much success, especially against such a good team as Poole.

I personally think The Dane is a bit of a wild rider, but he did nothing wrong. Piper left a massive hole on the inside and Thomsen went there. Once Thomsen was there. Piper's only option was a cut back. He choose instead to keep going on the outside. Unfortunately, once he did there was only going to be the one outcome.

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Another professional dive.Saying that the Briggo dirt deflector causes more falls than it does deflecting dirt!!