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But there is a BUT eaces1? at the moment there is a bit of a closed shop, you said there were no hopers in the field then but they had the opportunity to get there.Are the likes of Jonsson,Bjerre,Harris,Holta,Lindgren,(ect) are they not no hopers in a way,they will never be world champion yet they get in year after year.

Great post Vince,in my memory i think most people would believe that Mauger and Lee were two of the worst offenders in history at rolling.But i always felt over a period things evened itself out,like you said how can you tell if he has anticipated the start or just made a excellent start?you can't.I watched Bob Kilby for years he was the best starter i have ever seen but his reactions were so quick a skill, a main bug bearer for fans are the continued delays back and forth to the pits.

Why do you bother to have a swipe at the blokes opinion? you may not agree with it but he has some valid points in there.But at the end of the day,by making a stand you only punish yourself most people like myself are frustrated like hell with speedway but as it is it is better than nothing.Ask fans who have lost there loved track they would bite your hand off to have there tracks back in operation.

That bloke was like a modern day football referee, he thought he was a star bigger than the sport he was in.He ruined many a match i went to,he took the pathetic rules to another level that England Ipswich test match in 1984 that day he totally made the sport world wide look like a fiasco.

Well if that is the case all of us would not watch much speedway then, how many top dollar stars have we in the EL.?For me speedway is a great family sport over the years i have seen decent conference racing also the PL has a decent product.Entertainment is what it is all about if i see decent racing whatever level then i am more than happy.

You can't say that BangerBoy, you will be accused of living in the past i agree i would have those days back in a shot.

This is an entertainment first and foremost Brian, the rulers sometimes forget that, this sport is obsessed with the rule book most of them petty and unnecessary.If we were getting 3000 fans plus through the turnstiles fair anough but we are not get the product and entertainment levels right first.

Often then the rider who was rolling got punished anyway, for me not a problem it adds to the drama.If the rider anticipates good luck to him he took a gamble and he won if he gets it wrong he is punished.As others have said the sport has endless more problems to sort than this,nothing worse than endless restarts.And it seems to me some refs are trying to get the rider beat by delaying the start (ect) just like that Micky mouse referee Frank Ebdon used to.

1./ A one to 9 squad for every team, with the last three riders being british sharing the meetings no problems then with double uppers. 2./ Get rid of the Micky mouse joker rule. 3./A reduction every now and then for regular supporters maybe a voucher system, a free pint ? or something from the track shop cheaper?.A good way of showing that the club appreciates the home diehard supporter. 4./ Regular dialogue and discussion at every club (ie at Scunny Godfrey suggested it) because there are endless people who have suggested some great ideas on this forum as an example. 5./ Stop the EL against PL squabble,work together for the good of the sport. 6./ More modern music. 7./A seven thirty start,means a prompt start and finish. 8./The fifteen heat formula needs to be tinkered with. 9./Be great to have a regular golden helmet match race back. 10./Go back to the old race format, as an ex heat 5 no 5/4 against 1/2.

I have been to all three, Wembley,the Emirates and Cardiff, and the Emirates comes out on top but i would still place Wembley in front of Cardiff.My main preference is that if it is in the capital it might entice more through the gate especially from the foreign brigade.

It is not the best ,the occasion is great no doubt about that but we have been blessed with some great GPS this year at other venues.For the racing spectacle over the years,Cardiff has not been one of the best as i have said it is a great occasion and i hope people enjoy it for many years to come. "Paddi " when you pulled up outside Wembley with endless other coaches the excitement and atmosphere was electric, for me alot different to Cardiff a different era.None of the racing was great,even the Penhall final was overrated but what a day out fans from all over supporting different riders.Friendly banter amongst the fans that day always showed that speedway was a great family sport.

It still does not beat the atmosphere at Wembley though Dean.

I am sorry "Arthur you are right i meant the Olympic,( Barry Hearn the dictator after not getting his own way, grizzled and ended up putting Orient up for sale!) Would Wembley be an option i hope so, for me this is speedway's home a real tonic for the sport if it come true.

After Saturday a decent meeting and a great occasion could other venues come in for consideration for future GPS.?I say this because i don't know if it is correct? but was the gate only 31,000? a terrible gate if that is true.West Ham move into Wembley soon and there are rumours that the track is staying, and it is not impossible about a speedway return the landlords are interested in any revenue coming in.If that gate is true what a drop that was do they usually get 48/50,000? surely that is a worrying sign would WEMBLEY entice more people in? I believe it certainly would.

On this years form how has MJJ got in the first four.?

What a great gesture and i hope Brum are sorted for next year,what a pity all of speedway could not stick together like this.

But where you are wrong is Lambert and Lawson are on par with Barker now easily, if anything Barker has to earn his chance again.For me he has not,he has had his chance do you think he deserves another one.?

Rossiter has a chance a bit like our football side to look to the future and rebuild take a different route and to be fair Lyon would of done it has he Rossiter the courage does he believe in it? i don't know.I don't think he will,he is more worried about the short term results and how it might look on his cv.We all know its a tough job, no one exspects much i certainly don't but to be honest it does look a same old same old squad.For me Tai should be the only place filled, the rest are all of a muchness, even Cook has been inconsistent and his record at King,s Lynn not great either.If Nicholls could of been persuaded he is the only certain member i would have alongside Tai, and if i had a punt i would give Lambert and Lawson exsperience at that level.

P.C and Mort the best i believe, with the Phil Collins /Alan Grahame partnership up there also Shawn and Kelly were also special as a partnership.

Loved the track also "Dave,you had to have some guts to ride that track it was so fast.

Hyde Rd Belle Vue no doubts for me the best racing track i have ever been to, at this present time it would be Scunthorpe.

The speedway star has been great over the years and still is,i am with Colin i like both the cover and back with no writing spoiling the picture.I have a massive collection now in which my wife still moans about but i would never get shot of them.

Cant disagree Tyler his cv was a pretty good one,he qualified for 16 british FInals in a mega tough era.

Davey was never a no 1 but he certainly was not a second string,but that was because he was around with Louis and Sanders.And he would of been a no 1 most years when he challenged PC for the golden helmet.Pusey underachieved was a heat leader in a tough era and i think he reached a BLRC with Halifax. You are right "Tyler i see him win the manpower at Reading one year.I was not a fan of his also he had far better aquipment than most,but he was not as talented as alot of riders who had inferior aquipment.

So right Robin this should never happen,how can the likes of Cook make a living and invest in his aquipment if he does not have a foreign club.? Also these PL riders mostly bolster the EL standard without them it would be even poorer than it is now.