oldace

What is it that people are struggling to grasp. The contract to cover the GPs expired at the end of last season, that has been known for months. That being the case, as far as SKY are concerned, consigns speedway to one of many hundred sports and competitions which they dont cover. Thats quite simple, no need for statements reiterating that position weekly. Of course should a deal be concluded and the GPs once again be in SKYs schedule both BSI and SKY will make an announcement to that effect. It really is that simple folks, no need for the daily e mails to SKY or BSI. It simply makes the senders seem to be a bunch of half wits

Speedway is really an individual sport. The team element is entirely contrived, it is just an accumulation of individual scores to give a team total. Team riding, by and large, doesn't exist anymore. In a true team sport one team members performance is dependent on his team mates and that isn't the case with speedway

Has there ever been a more boring poster in the history of the BSF, this guy is a cure for insomnia

And what were you expecting. Perhaps you thought a deal had been agreed and they had just forgot to announce it and your e mail would be a most welcome reminder!!!!!

Nearly 6 hours now since the last posting of an e mail to SKY. Come on surely its about time someone else sent an e mail and furnished us with the reply!!!!!

What on earth are you on about. The SGP contract between SKY and BSI has expired and up to now no new deal has been agreed. That has been known for months and hasn't changed in the slightest, there haven't been any developments good or bad. Do you want a daily update saying nothing has changed. If and when BSI agree a deal with SKY (or any other broadcaster) then it will be made public. Until then you will have to make do with the daily half wit report from the latest wally to post a reply to the latest (although exactly the same as all the others) e mail they have sent to SKY.

Where were the grammar police when I did that !!!!!

Not even upper case for the "O" in Oldace. Tut tut

Sky do want subscribers though, it is why they are so reluctant to lose a customer that they will often give the product away at half price. The more subscribers they have the bigger the potential audience of a particular show is. This is where the real revenue is generated in that the cost of an ad break in a show with a high audience of ABC1 demograph will command an extremely good rate. Unfortunately the figures for speedway have been falling the last few years (I know Phil Rising has his reasons for this) coupled with the fact that speedway tends to be followed by more C2DE demograph then you can see ad rates will fall through the floor. This may be OK if it was very cheap to broadcast and not taking place in peak viewing time but it must be hard to justify both the cost of the broadcast and the 3 hours of peak time it requires. It is a shame because the stop start nature of speedway lends itself perfectly to SKYs requirements in that there is a natural break every 15 mins to cram the ads into, not much good though if no one is buying them. The reality is that the loss of the GP will cost SKY no more than a few hundred subscribers

If expecting to be able to decipher a sentence on first read through puts me on a pedestal or a high horse then fair enough, guilty as charged.

Touch of understatement I would say. There is a world of difference between the odd bit of dodgy punctuation or a spelling error or two, and posts that literally need translating because they are so poorly constructed. It is a sad indictment of society that someone posts in that manner

Jesus Christ!!! Are people really allowed to leave school this stupid.

Not sure of the speedway connection with Leicester there and Wiltshire Road was there before the stadium was demolished anyway, the houses were at the back of the old back straight. I think there are a few houses on the stretch of Parker Drive near the old entrance that are addressed Stadium Rise

My business can't afford what my staff want, neither can any other business in the land. Fortunately most business's pay a rate commensurate with the employees value to the company, rather than what the employee wants. Speedway seems to operate on a tail wagging the dog basis were riders dictate payscales

No

Shows how insignificant speedway is really, she (or he) clearly links GPs with Formula 1

There is a Hoskins Close on the site of the old Zoo in Gorton, also George Lockhart has a street named after him. He was the Ringmaster at the circus at Belle Vue for many years.

However it is dressed up Phil Sky are in business to make a profit. If the revenue from speedway justified it it would be on irrespective of the spend on football. Sky clearly believe that those three hours on a Saturday night can generate more revenue showing sports other than speedway

But the relegation to Sky Sports 4 is only a recent trend, why did they consign it there? It tends to suggest that the sport is not something advertisers are willing to pay top dollar for the privilege of its ad breaks.

I tend to think that is something of a smokescreen. Sky would not be ditching a profitable revenue stream no matter what the spend on football, in fact quite the opposite is true, they need more profitable live TV than ever before to pay for it. Sky need viewers, and the right calibre of viewers, watching their broadcasts to give value to the ad breaks in between. The viewing figures for the SGP have fallen a lot the past few years which coupled with the demograph of those viewers makes it difficult to justify 3 hours of prime time Saturday TV.

Poland are simply replicating the mistakes Britain did years ago. Paying vast sums to riders and upping admission thus driving fans away and then upping admission some more. Speedway in Poland is on a massive decline that will only continue if they continue paying sill money to riders

OK so you got your guess, now what is the value of a totally uninformed plucked from thin air guess as to the value of something that is entirely dependent on who it is being sold to

Not really no. Any organisation looking to advertise and create brand awareness via sport sponsorship would look to a sport who's followers most closely matched the demography of the people the product was aimed at. Equally they don't want their brand perception to be tarnished by association. The SGP might be perceived as cool (although its churn rate of sponsors is quite high) but Elite League speedway would not likely be so.

You are a legend, is marketing some sort of school project your'e working on?

Fits in nice with the rest of his ramblings then