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I would stop digging if I were you. It has been explained to you numerous times, a sponsorship isn't a commodity with an actual value. It's worth is in what an organisation can expect in return. What might be worth millions to one organisation will be worthless to another. You know this and yet you persist in asking silly questions in the name of so called discussion. We may as well have a discussion on how much we think a race point is worth!!!!

All of which is what we have been trying to tell this so called marketing expert for the last few days

Holder can regain the title!! he hasn't lost it yet, think you mean retain. No mention of how much easier it is to win a GP than a one off, come on Sidney you are slipping!!!

We were engaging in debate with this Storm character before Sidney waded in with his size 9s

I am not trying to belittle him, he is doing that himself. You seem to be bothering with a thread you are not interested in just to have a pop at me, it is OK for you though is it?

Well answer the guys question then Sidney. How much is sponsorship worth And I have a question as well. How much is a race point worth? I know the answer just wanted to start a debate

Because he posts nonsense and gets responses accordingly. What has knowing him got to do with anything ?

Are you really in marketing. You think the type of company a product is being pitched to has no bearing on the price. OK to try it your way. The value of Elite League sponsorship to my business would be £0. So there is the answer then. Elite League sponsorship is worth nothing!!!!! You really are a wally

It is not really a matter for debate though is it. The value is determined by many factors, exposure and to what type of people being the main ones. What a fan thinks it might be worth is totally irrelevant, it is worth what an organisation is prepared to pay for the exposure delivered. Organisations want their name shop fronted to potential customers, it is why Jeremy Kyle has ad breaks for ambulance chasing lawyers or Coronation Street with Harvey s etc. The value of a sponsorship deal with speedway might be zero to an organisation like Harrods but of more value to Aldi

And you are supposedly in marketing!!!!!

10,557 posts and finally one that is sensible!!! Of course he is a Brit, like you say born here of British parents makes him such.

The site I went on showed the average to be £13,500 in 1987 which from memory I agree seems a little high but £8000 doesn't seem correct either. Whichever way you look at it though admission in real terms is 3 times what it was in 1987. The thing was though before I finally gave up on the sport the constant inflation busting increases only served to lower my spend per annum on the sport. From attending with the wife and 2 kids home and away the soaring cost saw my wife give up going along with my daughter then we dropped away matches moving onto selected home matches before finally nothing at all. The actual cost though is not the real issue, the issue is that for £20.00 I want £20.00 worth of entertainment, speedway falls short so I don't go.

The film was set pre war initially. £90.00 was about half of the annual national average wage. It would be £15,000 in todays money

Well at Belle Vue in 1987 it was £3.10 inc programme. Next year it is £19.50 an increase of 530% To put in perspective the national average wage then was £13,500.00 On the same scale of speedway increases it now should be £85,000.00!! In reality it costs about 3 times as much in 2013 to watch speedway as it did in 1987 The strategy of accounting for lost fans by simply upping admission was always going to produce the results it has

I don't live where I was born and raised. I refer to my present address as home. Does this mean I am no longer from where I thought I was

Born in Britain of British parents and lived his first few years in Britain. What book are you reading!!!

Indeed it was Sean Maguire

We can even bring a dog with us just for the occasion.

Like most of the posts on this type of thread. People simply list there own little dislikes, however trivial, and declare it the reason the sport is in the mire. Surprised Ian hasn't been on yet blaming it all on the tactical ride

It was the Sunday People not the NOTW It is a bit of a myth that speedway was ever really a credible successful sport for any sustained period. The late 20s/early 30s it was a new phenomenon but it was in decline within a few years. Team racing was invented and that gave it a boost before the war. Of course the war put paid to most racing for 6 years and when the war ended the nation were clamoring for live sport and so speedway was in demand but by the early/mid fifties it was in serious decline again. The formation of the British League in 1965 gave the sport its longest period of stability (16 or 17 years) but by the early 80s it went into decline again, a decline that has continues to this day. In a history of 85 years probably only 25 years has the sport been really popular

Not really, Swindon's team would be entirely legal within the rules and they could simply track Batchelor if they wanted all completely legally. A promoter, or promoters, who wanted to challenge that would be risking an awful lot in legal costs.

Only as long as someone is daft enough to pay loan or transfer fees. If I were a promoter with hardly any assets (Belle Vue for instance) I would simply offer work to a rider the same way I would any other subcontractor and not pay these fees.

As many have pointed out the notion of clubs owning riders is a nonsense. A savvy promoter would offer Batchelor a job for the season but simply refuse to pay a loan or transfer or so much as a bean to Peterborough, the whole thing is a nonsense. A self employed tradesman being "owned" by the first person he does a job for, it is ludicrous.

It is owned by Ipswich Speedway Ltd? and leased to Spedeworth who sub let to Ipswich Speedway The owners are nothing to do with the witches but is probably where your confusion comes from

Yes i was having dinner with Paul Bellamy and his family last week and he confirmed this. Wow doesn't that make me sound important. i am off now to work out how to make a fake BSPA pass to make me look even more amazing