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Don't knock it 'til you've tried it Seems to be a family trait, Richard's dad was just gate and go as well and of course he was such a terrible rider for the Tigers. So, yeah, you're right.

What on earth are you talking about!!! Seems to be you that's having a coronary by the looks of it. To merely answer your question seeing as I'm a very obliging sort and as a courtesy, you ask why is it a red herring. If you follow from where Owlerton was picked up on it was somebody else that went off at a tangent and got their undergarments in a twist and got the wrong end of the stick. I only meant that I'd enjoyed a few matches there that was all, I didn't mention timeframe, just as I didn't mention timeframe when I mentioned enjoying matches at Hyde Road and Cleveland Park, but some nutter assumed it was like last week and went off on one about Owlerton as it is these days - fairy snuff. There you go all as a courtesy. If you find that too stressful then just put yer feet up have a cuppa and chillax.

I've absolutely no idea what you're talking about!! Seems you're clutching at straws. I never mentioned anything about Paulco (not a jot) nor anything about timeframe regarding Owlerton - nothing at all. Maybe when you (Halifaxtiger) add two plus two.... you get... a million and eighty seven?? Probably infinitely more accurate than your Hercule Piorot impersonations. Don't give up the day job. Take care mate. My lips never even moved there! Cheers!! That's twice my lips never moved.

That's a complete red herring and not what I actually said. I never mentioned the timing of my visits to Owlerton, far less 'the last couple of seasons'. Just the same as when I mentioned visiting Hyde Road I didn't mention the last couple of season either.

That is just a plain stupid and personally offensive comment. Nothing to do with "rating" at all, your accusation in that regard is false, and no I did not "rate" anything I merely mentioned tracks I've enjoyed speedway matches at. According to you I've no right to enjoy the speedway meetings I've been to, and I've no right to remember Hyde Road as a speedway stadium and racetrack. Call yourself a speedway supporter, obviously not.

Exactly!! Again, sanity at last, just like Gordon Bennett said. That's all I've been saying. How I've found it isn't up for question or debate - its simply how I've found it. No I bloody well have not!! You are so wrong to falsely accuse me of accusing Paulco of anything - that is simply 100% false. To say "I too" call it as it is, actually AGREES that the person calls it as it is - I merely said that "I too call it as it is" ( or in this case "how I've found it"). Seems you should have read it and thought about it first and "looked before you leapt" on that one. The next time you haven't enjoyed something - doesn't matter what it is, could be food, a holiday destination, anything. And you mention that you haven't enjoyed it - how bizarre you will find it when others tell you that you MUST have enjoyed it (you didn't) and that you SHOULD have enjoyed it (you didn't) and that you WILL like this and you WILL like that, when you know that when you tried it you didn't like it. When that happens you will be able to come back on this forum and relate to how its been for me on this thread!!! And lastly the assumption of timing of visits to Owlerton, you assuming my visits have been in the last two seasons when in fact I never said anything about their timing at all. Just as my visits to Hyde Road were not in the last two seasons either. But then what does it matter, seems you aint allowed to say simply what you've enjoyed and apparently I had no right to enjoy any of the speedway matches I've been to, and for that matter I'd no right to mention when I haven't enjoyed some of them either. There is also something rather arrogant about some of the comments including the ones telling me that their track is the best (eh? what a daft thing to say!!) which to me displays a rather bigheaded and arrogant attitude which is simply not called for.

Once again GB, what a breath of fresh air your post was. If only the likes of Halifaxtiger would read what you just said!! At no time have I said what Halifaxtiger wrongly assumed I said - jeez I only said how I've found a track and I am FULLY entitled to say how I've found it. The rest of the garbage that's been wrongly assumed has nothing to do with me at all and not what I've said at all. Instead its been rammed down my throat that a certain track IS the best and that it IS better than everwhere and you WILL enjoy it, which is garbage. I am FULLY entitled to simply mention that it hasn't been like that when I have visited. Simple. Well best of luck, hope you enjoy it. But you should also acknowledge that when I've visited that it hasn't been like that.

What clanger? Where did I say it was in the last two season???? Answer??? I DIDN'T!!! Clanger dropped by yourself by assuming something I, in fact, never said!!! Just like the matches I saw at Hyde Road were not in the last two season either!!! Obviously this aint getting through..... I was talking only about matches I've enjoyed - nowt else. That's just plain 100% false. Again you're assuming something I, in fact, never said - at all. I merely said that "I too" call it as it is - nowt else. I also did NOT accuse as you have - wrongly - stated. I merely have relayed my personal experience of the EWR - nowt else. There is a world of difference between mentioning that how its been when I've visited (fair enough) and conversely being told that I don't know a good track from a bad one and told to go to specasavers which is a different thing entirely and there is no place for that kind of abusiveness. To clarify about the 'over-rated comments' wording that you picked up on, that was just typing a bit too quick and it wasn't a particular choice of words I was looking for, I was just a bit quick that was all, I really only meant that whereas on the one hand some of the comments were raving about the track itself (that from my perspective is over-rated, i.e. not the comments themselves) and all I meant was that if you mix the different views up you would end up with a cross-section of views, just as you would have with anything, that was all. I thought it was obvious I meant was over-rated (from my perspective) not that the comments themselves were, but then seemingly not from your reaction. Total red herring. Where did I say it was in the last two years that I visited Owlerton??? Answer?? I didn't!!!

Well sharpasabluntobject you've failed to take the context, I was in fact answering allthegear and his (genuine) question I (genuinely) answered as to the tracks I've enjoyed when I've attended them and matches that I enjoyed watching - nothing else. If you have a problem then that's nothing to do with the matches I've attended and enjoyed watching. It so happens that the matches I've attended at Owlerton were very enjoyable and also on video. That's all. Jesus jumpin. At least not as bad as New Area Panties or 'nappies' for short. As Gordon Bennett says, I'm not saying what's wrongly been assumed. On the one hand I've only said it isn't my experience of EWR when I've attended or how I've found it, whereas on the other hand I've been told "you can't tell a good track when you see one" (well that I liked Hyde Road - seems I'm now told that I shouldn't have) and to "go to specsavers", all that stuff is a different thing entirely. Preference and subjectivity and what a person has found or enjoyed has nothing to do with that kind of abusiveness which I find childish and just plain stoopid.

At last sanity!! Thank you. You are 150% correct. Indeed it is. Your "cheek/toungue/in/firmly" (rearrange these words into a common saying or phrase) radar detector wasn't plugged in there. You see my "crime" was to (genuinely) answer your question!! All purely subjective of course as to my preferences or the ones I've enjoyed matches at when I've been to them. But here's a tip for future reference allthegear, best not to (genuinely) answer that kind of (genuine) question as New Area Panties will tell you what you should like, what toothpaste you should prefer, and personal recommendations on frocks and Morris dancing. Every day's a schoolday. Incidentally, the tracks I listed, I forgot it was actually horse racing tracks I was trying to remember and any resemblance to names of speedway tracks and stadia is purely coincidental, the eyesight's going these days so horses legs and wheels they all look the same to me these days.

1. If you post on a Forum, you should accept that others will reply to your comments. 2. None of us can dictate who can or cannot reply to our comments - if you don't like it, then you can either stop posting or become less sensitive to feedback you take exception too. 3. P.S. your response to a post by me earlier on this thread could also be described as "smartass" & "dumb", but I didn't respond with blubbering indignation. From the not so sublime to completely ridiculous.... Ah Cyclops how are you. Your points 1. Not really, no point in being confrontational because somebody likes something 2. Ah "feedback", the dictionary definition doesn't include harassment or confrontation 3. You mean post #30 on this thread? Worth checking if the humour bypass is reversible.

New area Panties We are all indebted to your wisdom. Maybe you could tell us all what toothpaste we should all prefer, what frocks you prefer wearing and a few tips on your best Morris Dancing moves.

What a stupid dumbwit comment

Tracks that I "rate"? That's not where I'm coming, I don't believe in "rating" as such, more that I've enjoyed the matches (or haven't enjoyed them), so really its all subjective - there's no hard and fast (no pun intended) rule or anything, more just personal preference and its all subjective. Too many good tracks lost, Hyde Road - now that was a speedway track. Didn't like Kirky Lane so much, well I guess nothing compares to Hyde Road. Also liked Cleveland Park, and Stoke. I've never liked the shape of EOES although great viewing and great fans. I also liked The Shay, it had banking on the bends.

A lot of folk love marzipan, but those that do don't ram it down the throat of those who haven't enjoyed it. I've never liked Peterborough as a race track, although great viewing and great fans.

Hello Rob. You're a sensible guy on here. I can tell you (in best possible taste) that no I am not winding anybody up. But seems others are flamin well tryin to wind me up - if I haven't enjoyed the racing at the EWR then I haven't and no-one can tell me that somehow I have when I know I haven't. Simple as that. And no I wasn't particularly referring to Scunthorpe v Glasgow either.

Fer cryin out loud, Jesus jumpin on a Suzuki.... if I haven't enjoyed it at the EWR then I bloody well haven't. It isn't up for debate.

What on earth are you talking about. Ok, tracks I've been to.... Hyde Road, Kirkmanshulme Lane, The Shay, Brandon Stadium, Dudley Wood, Lakeside/Arena Essex Raceway, Kings Lynn, Ipswich, Owlerton, Cleveland Park, STMP, Hull, East of England Showground, Eddie Wright Raceway, Derwent Park, Loomer Road, Berrington Lough, Shielfield, Powderhall, Armadale. If I've felt disappointed in the racing at the EWR then I have been - you can't tell me that somehow I haven't been disappointed when I know that I have.

You say one visit. Over several visits I've been repeatedly disappointed. Others on this forum have also commented that the Ben Fund meeting held at the EWR produced very poor racing. As for "just look on you tube", you can say the same of every track. As far as I'm concerned its over-rated. You say "its a good racing track" - not when I've been. And no I am not the only person saying - others on this forum have also slated the EWR Ben Fund meeting saying that the racing was very poor. Look. If I say I've been disappointed in the racing at the EWR then I have been - you can't tell me that somehow I wasn't disappointed in it when I was.

Full of self praise. Self praise and continually patting yourself on the back is no praise at all. Don't have such an over-inflated vision of yourselves and folk like me that have seen far too many oh so boring follow-my-leader meetings that are a total yawn-fest won't be so brassed off with your continual over-inflated vision of your track. Well listen here - I also call it how it is. I've always found the EWR to be very very ordinary, follow my leader non-racing, and the viewing is terrible. That's how it is for me - I call it how it is too.

Fair comment Unfortunately I've never found that, always seems to be on its not so good days that I've visited so I can only go by how its been when I've visited, and why its not a track I've enjoyed speedway at so much as other tracks. Balance that with comments raving about it and you maybe have a more realistic overall picture, a mixture of views. I've never been to the Bahamas but knowing my luck I'd probably catch it during a hurricane or monsoon.

Totally uncalled for and unnecessary Halifaxtiger, no need for personal attack I hope not!! PM: it was just out of courtesy (er.... surely not)

You mean inconsistently

The Scotsman Your PM's not working?

Good heavens, are you a cat? Surely never!!