Fortythirtyeight

So you haven’t got an answer then, and your answer is nonsensical . I have actually been to the show and very good it was but I can fully understand why the majority of clubs don’t officially attend as it makes no commercial sense. Why would they attend ?…..come on, your the one demanding they attend , why ?

But that’s the EXACT location , she couldn’t be more helpful!

Well come on then, what would say Edinburgh or Glasgow gain from having a stall , with out of date information and probably clothing on it , hundreds of miles away from their potential audience?

Why would clubs, particularly non local clubs want a stall in November at a show no where near their stadiums? They haven’t even had an AGM yet so don’t even know what they would be trying to promote next season ! Pehaps more local clubs might try and attract attention but the only people going to this show are Speedway fans already so nothing to be gained unless your selling off last seasons left overs.

Only 6 in the NDL, which is what I was referring too. The ‘Trophy’ set up is a nonsense in my opinion but it does give them extra rides as we can’t seem to run the ‘opportunities ’ that the BSPL promised.

Can Bates still be a Director when he's no longer a Promoter of a club ?

Oh but it is, and “ several clubs “ is more than there is in the league.

Only ONE NDL club paid its riders the ‘standard’ rate and even they paid more to their ‘stars’, whilst other clubs paid treble the approved rate. Even the ‘Trophy’ sides paid more and I know this through riders I assist.

Are you insinuating that Trigger was one of those ? As I can confirm he certainly was not . Whilst I am more than aware of some of these high ‘demands’ only a foolish promoter would give in to them.

Then that has to be the must stupid idea the sport has come up with since ‘doubling up’.

Yet Redcar are set to announce their whole team at their Christmas party so the rules must already have been agreed , surely ? They have already stated they were forced by the new rules to release King.

This cant be true can it ? Clubs are already announcing signings, led by the Chairman and his club , so the major decisions must have already been made or are they delaying in the hope that someone buys Sheffield and Northampton doesn't just turn out to be another pipe dream.

I know Ben Trigger has announced his retirement which is a real shame and indicative of the state of the sport at the moment.

and that’s WRONG as they changed to Monday and THURSDAY as Poland took up a tv contract to show live matches, but what’s in another inaccurate speedway press release.😊

Wrong. Monday & Thursday were dictated by the BSPA to placate Poland and the riders who wished to race there and the UK.

Not necessarily so. You can get a cheap flight for under £50 but if you have a UK based rider in the north having to travel to Plymouth then you might end up paying him more.

Agreed, only 4 clubs that I know of can cover the wage bill from income through the turnstiles to include bar & Food takings, and one of them admits it’s been a struggle at times to do that in 2025 because they were successful and therefore had a bigger wage bill than previous years.

and your ‘costs’ are……?

Whilst I have insider knowledge , due to being a sponsor ,no one could tell you accurately EVER rider deal as it’s different for each rider at each club, from £10 a point and 20p a mile in the NDL to Premiership thousands pounds guarantees and flights. Then add in sponsorship deals, bonuses, signing on fees , mechanics, accommodation which some clubs , the ‘top’ teams, can add into a deal. A rider I sponsor who doubles up in the top two leagues is on a guarantee in the Premiership, a partial guarantee in the championship with points money to top that up so…. Now stand back and wait for others ‘ GUESTIMATES’….

But made a nice packet in signing on fees and over the top guarantees.

You must be a politician

Insanity has got the sport in the trouble it is in.

Can’t believe anybody is seriously proposing a ‘ NOMAD ‘ team comprised of riders from other clubs and sponsored by those other clubs. In the words of McEnroe……” you cannot be serious !”

King was a very good team man, excellent with the youngsters , still capable of big scores and a thoroughly nice guy . Sad that he seems to be forced out by a rule that doesn’t appear to have been thought out very well . Hope he gets fixed up quickly, if he hasn’t already been. Whilst Redcar have always shown loyalty to riders… Will the Bears take another gamble on Riss ? Jenkins to come back ? Allen pencilled in ? Might need to find a couple of 2/3 pointers with potential and that won’t be easy.

They are coming from riders themselves . Riders talk, especially when they haven’t been paid, mechanics talk even more, more so when they are owed money . There are very few secrets in the pits. You should hear the figures from Poland !