Crump99

Having watched more lower league speedway at Peterborough in my time than top league it has nothing to do with snobs, it's just what makes the effort worthwhile. A return to the PL without an apparent will to return to the Elite isn't my idea of fun. Having said that, the EL 2014 is a dogs' dinner so I'm sure that I'll cope for this year. As to enjoyment, Crump, Sullivan, Tesar, Loram, Lee Richardson RIP, P Karlsson etc against Fisher, Ostrich, baby Bjerre - spot the difference. The former is my idea of enjoyment. Even our 6 fingered 50 pieces of silver A47 cousins wouldn't choose PL over their short unproductive EL career. And just to rub salt in it, Sullivan's exciting 2013 side of Big Bjerre, Buzz, Kylmakorpi, Hougaard, Kosciuch, Fisher (as back up not the most exciting thing on offer) had just delivered a second half of the season which was as good as anything since 2006 IMHO. So the bottom line is that supporters are happy to have speedway although once again why it was under threat seems unclear. Many will embrace PL, hopefully in sufficient numbers. Personally I'd rather be in the EL section arguing with SteveO and ignoring stevebrum, no offence

I'm here under sufference so I'd rather not. Prem's bad enough without Gerry dusting off Smokie again!

What was the question.

That's true, our local journo has K Bjerre down as 2014 world champion.

I'm sure that Panthers fans are thinking of 2007, not 2006. That's lovely, I'm welling up

"top two of Fisher and Ostergaard" - Jeez! So I didn't dream it, we really are in the Prem

You'll be hoping champs is wrong then, it's usually 50/50.

ok, what are you after!

What's the question?

We had to go Premier League to offload Bjerre, pity the poor sods who took him on, oh hang on

As I tell Luke Signwriter (private joke ) life is full of hangers on, it's not speedway specific!

I trust that you're talking about the PL

Ahh I see, if you'd been watching the big boys section you'd have realised what sort of response you'd get. It could be an interesting season? We have been with the common folk longer during our existence than with the big boys so we're quite at home, if not happy about how and why we got here. Will we be watching Darcy Ward, Tai Woffinden (you know, that World Champion bloke), Niels-Kristian Iversen, Hans Andersen etc? Inferior is in the eye of the beholder but I think that you have a point for 2014 at least.

You're not married to steveO are you?

Don't think so, you're just using that as an example of why bcd might be an EL snob.

I think you're misreading our situation and we don't expect to take anything by storm.

Who apparently thought Klindt was a good addition?

It's not him you need to be asking: "Panthers chiefs are now working hard to fill the one remaining slot in their line-up. They have 7.77 points available to them." - who's doing the picking?

Swings and roundabouts isn't it. Poole were really 2012 champions but Panthers seconds got oh so lucky in the TV play-offs. Not sure about happy (HNY to your good-self ) but still on track, let's see how it pans out

Unfortunately not because that's the way it works. Don't think Sky were bothered tbh but Ford & the BSPA, that's a different matter!

So Poole are not worthy EL champions because they only finished 4th over the whole season?

We could call it the "Who's doing the hokey cokey now" challenge.

Colin Horton did bring him here and he turned out never to be worth the risk. If someone else could get a season out of him then we would have been talking.

Can't remember, he was like a yo-yo? Sounds familiar though on all sides: Panthers' bosses had feared Zabik could manipulate his average in their colours and then move on to the Pirates next year on a low mark. At the time of his sacking he was one meeting away from gaining a full average.

His famous moment at Poole was this in 2006: Poole Pirates 36 1. Bjarne Pedersen 2,4!,3,1* = 10+1 2. Craig Boyce 0,0,2,0 = 2 3. Krzysztof Kasprzak 2,0,2,3,0 = 7 4. Greg Walasek 0,2,1*,3 = 6+1 5. Antonio Lindback 3,1!,3,2,1 = 10 6. Jason Doyle 1,0,0,0 = 1 7. Shaun Tacey 0,0,0,0 = 0 Peterborough Panthers 56 1. Hans Andersen 3,3,3,2,3,3 = 17 2. Ulrich Ostergaard 1,1*,1,1,1* = 5+2 3. Ryan Sullivan 3,3,3,1*,1* = 11+2 4. Niels K Iversen 1,2*,2,0,2 = 7+1 5. R/R 6. Richard Hall 2*,1,0 = 3+1 7. Karol Zabik 3,2,3,2,1*,2* = 13+2 Read more: http://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/1066/poole-peterborough-26th-july#ixzz2ohlzf3PA