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Interview with a troll. Ouch: I see Emil couldn’t be bothered on last night. Dimwit troll: Never mind Emil, what about Kurtz? Ouch: What about him? Dimwit troll: He didn’t bother trying in the semi final! Ouch: He had an off night, it happens. Dimwit troll: Off night! He didn’t even try. Four points from your number one, disgraceful. Ouch: Your number one scored four points. Dimwit troll: He had an off night. Ouch: He really did as Brady beat him twice supposedly without even trying. Dimwit troll: He wasn’t trying. Ouch: So our number ones can score four each but you decide that one wasn’t trying. Dimwit troll: Yes, got a problem with that, you saddo? Ouch: That’s illogical. Dimwit troll: Dan and Emil had off nights but Kurtz wasn’t trying, you should ask him for your money back. Ouch: And what about the cup? Dimwit troll: He had an off night. Ouch: Right ok, he rides bad at the same track in the same season and you decide one was an off night and one he wasn’t trying? Dimwit troll: Yes, he’s a wrong un! Ouch: That’s illogical. Anyway way would he not try? Dimwit troll: He was about to ride in the most important meeting of his career up to that point. To be honest, I don’t blame him for not trying. Ouch: Brady isn’t the type of rider not to try for his team. Dimwit troll: Rubbish, you’ll never convince me otherwise. All riders would do it. Mercenaries. Ouch: You do realise that only eleven months before the semi final Brady rode “in the most important meeting of his career up to that point”, the GP challenge. Dimwit troll: I didn’t know that but I can imagine his score, the disgrace. Ouch: He score a paid maximum for The Aces. Dimwit troll: Oh! Ouch: So why didn’t he score low due to not trying as you said any rider would do that but he didn’t. Dimwit troll: He didn’t try in the semi final but he did in the final last year. Ouch: You’re illogical. Dimwit troll: Don’t care what you say, you can shove your facts, you troll.

Interview with a troll. Ouch: I see Emil couldn’t be bothered on last night. Dimwit troll: Never mind Emil, what about Kurtz? Ouch: What about him? Dimwit troll: He didn’t bother trying in the semi final! Ouch: He had an off night, it happens. Dimwit troll: Off night! He didn’t even try. Four points from your number one, disgraceful. Ouch: Your number one scored four points. Dimwit troll: He had an off night. Ouch: He really did as Brady beat him twice supposedly without even trying. Dimwit troll: He wasn’t trying. Ouch: So our number ones can score four each but you decide that one wasn’t trying. Dimwit troll: Yes, got a problem with that, you saddo? Ouch: That’s illogical. Dimwit troll: Dan and Emil had off nights but Kurtz wasn’t trying, you should ask him for your money back. Ouch: And what about the cup? Dimwit troll: He had an off night. Ouch: Right ok, he rides bad at the same track in the same season and you decide one was an off night and one he wasn’t trying? Dimwit troll: Yes, he’s a wrong un! Ouch: That’s illogical. Anyway way would he not try? Dimwit troll: He was about to ride in the most important meeting of his career up to that point. To be honest, I don’t blame him for not trying. Ouch: Brady isn’t the type of rider not to try for his team. Dimwit troll: Rubbish, you’ll never convince me otherwise. All riders would do it. Mercenaries. Ouch: You do realise that only eleven months before the semi final Brady rode “in the most important meeting of his career up to that point”, the GP challenge. Dimwit troll: I didn’t know that but I can imagine his score, the disgrace. Ouch: He score a paid maximum for The Aces. Dimwit troll: Oh! Ouch: So why didn’t he score low due to not trying as you said any rider would do that but he didn’t. Dimwit troll: He didn’t try in the semi final but he did in the final last year. Ouch: You’re illogical. Dimwit troll: Don’t care what you say, you can shove your facts, you troll.

So after making up lies about Brady the Ipswich trolls then support their own team not bothering including one that couldn’t even be bothered to turn up. A clear indication of a troll is the elasticated morals and totally biased nonsense they trot out. Pick a lane and stick to it as you’d get more respect and appear less troll like if you didn’t yo-yo your opinions based on the riders involved. I presume you’re just looking for reaction all the time which in itself marks you out as a wrong ‘un. For all the true Witches fans I still hope you pull of the win that is needed after so so long but when I think of the riders, management and trolls I hope they lose big. Shame John Louis isn’t around as he would not put up with this. A true great that I had the good fortune to meet in the pits following the Superama at Hackney back in the 80’s. Top fella sadly missed.

Well done to Sheffield for topping the table. Best team in the league over the season and even more remarkable given the injury to Tai at the start of the season. You need commending for how you got on with the task of finishing top following that set back. No continued bleating about your misfortune or spouting what you would have won like some teams from down south where we’ve had to endure the same all this season as well being told they will take all before them. True class Sheffield and a lesson to those that are lacking in that department. Fingers crossed to more war of the roses encounters and seeing the bend two barmy army at the NSS again.

Hoping for an Ipswich win as it would be nice to spread things around the other teams. Sheffield 2023, Leicester the cup and a title for Ipswich would keep interest high at these clubs. We don’t want support waning again so that we see the witches dropping down a league, we can’t race ourselves in our league. Ipswich really need to win after all the talk at the beginning of the season, “best team since the ‘90’s” (they’re not), “We will go all season without defeat”, (they didn’t, not even at home) “a masterclass in team building” (it wasn’t as The Aces did it in 2023 but with a greater points boost). Hope it produces the kind of speedway you all enjoy though I won’t be watching (play offs not for me) and I’ve only junior speedway to watch now with two Colts meetings and the Ipswich U19 Grand Prix.

If there was a computer generated simulation that removed the race suits, helmet colours and surroundings, then fans both home and away would call out the excitement level presented. The thing is home fans think this kind of speedway is fine when it’s their home track and they are winning. This in turn makes promoters think they are doing a fine job and they not only do not look to create a racetrack, they search for more of the same. Being happy with a “race” that effectively last 7 seconds makes you a big part of the problem.

Sorry, I’m having trouble hearing you over the sound of the axe grinding.

And the KO cup in March where unbeknown to us he was saving himself for tonight. I’ve got that right haven’t I?

You cannot compared riders from different era’s and you cannot even compared results over the last few years as they are always peeing about with the points scoring system. 3,2,1,0 then add them all up.

Broken chain decides it. Dam Aces luck again.

I was given an Aces scarf as part of my season ticket package the other season. Very nice it was too. I agree with you that other clubs should follow suit.

He only scored 7 in a league meeting for Swindon before the GP round at Teterow in 2017, when double figure scores were the norm that season. Like Brady, it was just a bad night and there is no need for bogus conspiracy theories to be made up in either of these instances.

Brady isn’t great at Ipswich but the timing of the meeting has made some see a lack of effort on his part when this wasn’t the case, it was just Brady at Ipswich. What was the reason for his low scores there earlier in the season? Last year Brady’s most important world championship meeting was the GP challenge, in some ways more important than today’s meeting as the long term financial benefits of being part of the GP circus are huge for a rider and it was something he had missed out on time and time again. The day before he won the challenge he rode unbeaten for The Aces as our captain leading us to another league title. Rather than make up a conspiracy that isn’t there maybe focus your attention on why three of the most spectacular riders in world speedway were unable to strut their stuff in one of the most high profile meetings of the domestic season.

Disappointed with The Aces but you cannot win them all nor should you expect to. I’m pleased for Ipswich and hope they go on to win the final. If other second division clubs see teams that have moved up not only do well but positively challenge then all the better. I’d rather these teams prosper than see support dwindle again to the point they need to drop down a league as we need clubs to ride against in our league. Roll on next years play offs when hopefully normal service will be resumed - injury allowing that is. Go for gold witches and here’s to another winners medal for our super ex RS Tom.

It’s pretty good at Belle Vue as most of our team ride for only us in this country with many who have never ridden for another top flight club. Most are quite long standing Aces with Dan being with us since 2016. It’s not the norm but something we like to do with our team. As with decades ago points limits, like rider control sees us forced to lose riders, we would have loved to have kept Max and Tom for instance but it’s good to see these riders continue to prosper at other clubs. Several riders are in the Craven suite after the meeting and mingle with the fans chatting and having photos and this has helped create a real affinity with the fans (many decked out in club colours) who see them as part of our Belle Vue family.

Belle Vue can sort their fixtures in time for the play offs and we have a busier schedule than most. The desire needs to be there. I did mention at the start of the season that Belle Vue are always the first to get to 75% of fixtures thus reducing our window for potential injury replacements. Any club that cannot fulfill its fixtures in an appropriate manner a week or two before the play offs needs to give their head a wobble. Guests have always been around but not with the regularity of these days. In the most famous KO Cup final which we won after THAT run off, we had Jim McMillan guest for Chris Pusey. Guests can no longer be described as a necessary evil as there was a perfectly fine rule in place in 2022 whereby you could quite rightly replace an injured rider at any point of the season. This rule was dropped in favour of guests (or the less than effective RR). This guest move has been actively applauded by many on here following the 2022 season when the rule was correctly applied to both Peterborough & Belle Vue. Never been a fan of the play offs and I’m still yet to see the full 30 heats of any since its introduction, such is my apathy towards them.

I don’t think that will be the case at all as the play offs have something riding on them, not like the qualifiers that have filled the calendar long after the top four were settled (even if not mathematically). Brady’s most important meeting last season was the GP challenge the day after he scored a maximum and led his beloved Aces to another league title. I think we will see the Brady & Dan we saw last night come the play offs. Our bottom five have rarely set the world on fire this season and we only get around 20 points away and 25 at home. That leave Dan & Brady with potentially 28 points to add. When deciding on the winners it’s just a case of how many points you knock for those two from the potential final score of 48 away and 53 at home.

I agree and it’s a very different world today than only 10-15 years ago. Data capture and engagement with customers is so much easier and with AI keeping tabs on such data, tailored marketing is the way to go. You’re correct that keeping hold of customers is the hard part and deals are a must to keep them coming back. I’ve asked many times “What is that seat worth to you?” and the response is always £25. My argument is it’s currently worth zero as it’s constantly empty and an empty seat looks and feels bad so fill it in any way possible. We use to block out around 50 seats in F/G section for schools and the Hide Out Youth Zone but take up waned though the offer is always there. I would always have a full looking stadium for TV meetings, by hook or by crook as it adds a fomo factor to those looking in from their armchairs. Clubs need a dedicated marketing person and not treat it as an add on by one of the current staff. The more accomplished they are the better with remuneration being based on results. Over the years it’s always been someone’s mate having a go (I was one such mate back in Perrins era) and the focus is never quite there. Better still would be a British speedway sales team fighting for our portion on the leisure pound.

Nope. Increase attendance but not revenue before attendance dropped back to normal levels with a decrease in revenue. All the initiatives haven’t worked to any great degree in the past though it could be said we are filling a leaky bucket given the age of our fan base so even standing still can be seen as a little victory. Being optimistic for a moment the current push for families using more modern channels of approach seems to be paying off with an always well attended bank holiday being very well attended, so the battle continues.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/other-sport/aces-on-offer-983611?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/other-sport/prices-cut-as-aces-thank-loyal-1002582.amp We still do things of a similar vein but just to be clear we didn’t stop doing the specifics mentioned in the links due to them being so successful. We can all get a handle on where speedway sits in the public consciousness. I’ve asked this twice but I think fans lethargy dwarfs that of any promoter. Invite 20 people you know to attend a meeting with you and let us know their reaction whether they attend or not. These are “hot” invites as they know and like you so it’s infinitely easier than a “cold call” invite. Having your 20 responses will give you a sense of what speedway in the UK is up against. Just to add, you don’t need to do this. You can all do nothing or even better just keep telling other folk where they are going wrong.

Pleasing result for The Aces with better a performance from our reserves. Shame about Jaimon but these things happen and even an average return from him would have seen another away win, not that it was needed. I was 250 miles away but even I could hear Brady say f*#^ that in his last two rides and it difficult to argue against that when comparing a late season filler to the world crown. After this, I’m very optimistic about our play off meetings given the form of our bottom four and the scores to be delivered by our top three. Exciting times again on the domestic and world front for Aces fans.

Whilst taking the sport to the kids again is worthwhile we have hundreds a year with their parents walking past a 50 foot image of Dan Bewley before walking across the speedway track to play football. https://www.playfootball.net/venues/manchester-belle-vue-sports-village/community-sessions

I’d utilise bank holidays and school holidays to attract families. The first meeting of the season is always well attended for speedway starved fans, so I’d run a Sheffield meeting then and put the PCMT on a Saturday later in the season. I’d do the same with the British Final if no other club wanted it. That first night plus bank and school holidays would account for 12 meetings, all being well attended hopefully. The league title should go to the top of the table team with the top four competing for the KO Cup as this would make for more meaningful meetings. Run a wooden spoon cup for the other two, if it’s a six team league again like four years ago. I’d offer more special deals (endless options to try) and freebies to bump up the crowd as we saw on Monday that a big crowd can elevate an ordinary meeting. All this should be done if we stick with Dan & Brady types or not. If we throw them out then we restructure completely with rules making equipment cheaper to run and admission reflecting what’s on offer.

Decent enough meeting for an end of season filler. The racing was compromised due to the need to keep the dust under control on a hot and breeze day. Only 6 heats had anything of note happen after they had sorted themselves out off the start by B3 L1. This meant it could appeal to the racing fans and the gate’n’go brigade so win win there. Big crowd and great atmosphere with the usual excellent presentation added to with the sound and pictures from the big screen. Shame a Tate EF in the away fixture cost us the bonus but if we are to have our usual bad luck, then have it in a qualifier. This unfortunate loss and our aggregate win against the lions earlier in the year just leaves Ipswich who we have failed to tame. Given the fact we pulled back 14 points over just 9 heats suggests we can be successful again when it comes to giving trophies out. It’s squeaky bum time though as our annual play off injury jinx is due in the next fortnight. Opponents take heart.

Apologies if this is already on here but I’ve just registered my support for this via https://development.wiltshire.gov.uk/pr/s/planning-application/a0iQ300000FdUf7IAF/pl202506229?tabset-8903c=3 It can only help.