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I think The Aces will stick with six of this year’s team that have been the mainstays for many seasons. The vacant spot will depend on the points limit being between Zagar or Cairns. Brady & Dan. No better top two. Jaimon. No better third heat leader, home or away. Norick. No one better at his age or younger. Tate. No better three pointer. Jake. As good as most RS for this coming season, though he’d move to first reserve should the limit be low and gain a 25% reduction with a real average being used rather than the 3 point base rate. Zagar or Cairns. Best number four or a very promising RS.Play offs as usual then hope we have Brady & Dan from 2024 instead of 2025. Be sad if we need to off load more from our conveyor belt of talent but if it keeps or brings teams to our league then I’ll live with it. In an alternate universe we have a top five of Brady, Dan, Max, Jaimon & Tom. Staring average of that team before we worked our magic, around 22 - wow.

Don’t know if I’m easily please but I’m happy with the usual 90mins it takes to run a meeting. Even if it runs over at 120mins its ok with me. The replays and interviews on the big screen plus those over the mike keep my interest between heats, if I’m not chatting with folk that is. Add in the antics of Chase and his interval white line challenge for the kids (big & small) pass the time nicely. Andy sticks to his regular quick track grades with only two of the four “holding things up” as the others are at the interval and before heat 15 when there are breaks anyway. Pre meeting we have Philips manager interviews and post meeting we have the press conference with Hayley & Lee before we can have one to one chats with the riders, all in the lovely surrounds of the Peter Craven suite. Being from an era of three TV channels, a whip & top to play with and chippy tea being a treat, perhaps my entertainment sensibilities are out of step with current trends. I agree about the stats thing and I’ve spoken with people trying to produce an app to draw the kids in using stats but nothing has surfaced yet. Also there should be more for the managers to do and us second guess them as currently the format is far too ridge, for no apparent reason that I can see.

Clubs have their own broadcast quality production crew and this supplemented by BSN would produce more than enough footage for a highlights show. TBH this would be better than a full live show as these generally show it to be boring and devoid of excitement due to the FTG nature of our sport now. Even the worst of tracks get a good race every 30-45 heats and whilst this is used on here to poo poo those complaining about the racing at certain tracks it would work perfectly for a tv show. The problem then is providing a race night experience that matches that presented on the highlights show. When you have clubs like Poole being open about producing a gate’n’go track to negate the excitement usually provided by Christ Harris etc then we will always be in trouble as a sport. Poole are by no means the exception in this, unfortunately.

Well done to Jake on a fine win though I question his participation in an event pitched for U19 when first advertised. Jake isn’t even the youngest Ace being fifth in age order and when you add in our Colts there where others best suited to have a shot at the “prize for winning is a sort of scholarship with Ipswich to give them a hand with advice from riders and mechanics. A one-on-one training session and that sort of thing”. Ipswich though need commending for staging an event like this and I hope it will lead to a junior team in the coming seasons. https://britishspeedway.co.uk/miscellaneous/witches-announce-u19-plan/

I meant family as more of an ethos at our club and not a blood thing, I mean the Krays & the Wests were family but not like the Belle Vue family. Last season Birmingham SACKED Zach Cook. I’m guessing you’re trolling about Tom not being poached so it’s back in your box. I look in every now and again if bored and I have to say you’re all no better than before which is a real shame for this forum. Troll away to your heart content as I’ll not be correcting your nonsense for a good while.

Hoping we can retain the top stars and the fabulous entertainment they bring. Who can topple Sheffield off the top spot they have made their own with three tops in four seasons. Incredible to think the only time they didn’t top the table, they were worthy winners of the play off cup. The battle continues between the tigers and The Aces for team of the decade.

Very on the nose re the witches team building ethic. I particularly like the goodbye to “Mr Ipswich”. Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out! Belle Vue are more a family and that is why most of the team have only ever ridden for Belle Vue with some for many years. Three finals and two wins in five seasons is proof it works for us but I get others attraction to a team basically generated by AI, however disconnected any success feels to fans. The only downside for us is we need to lose riders year on year and haven’t had the luxury to strengthen up as the weaker teams from last season could. It’s a method of distributing the trophies among other teams which is a fine idea but difficult to watch when riders you’ve massively helped along are aiding your downfall. The perennial race to the bottom our sport so admirers. In the UK Dan rides around 50% of his meetings on gate’n’go tracks and the only thing he’d learn elsewhere is how to gate consistently. I’m more than happy with the exciting Dan we have now, a rider that all but two (one of which is another Belle Vue rider) of the riders in the world would want to emulate. To suggest the NSS is holding back a riders development is bizarre, even for BSF given the amount of FIM medals amassed recently.

I wouldn’t be so sure. Riders careers are short and financial gain kicks in more as riders mature. We all know The Aces have no chance of outbidding the witches if push came to shove and tapping up riders before the season has even gone cold is a well known trait of theirs. The patchwork nature of their teams, culled from the declarations over the years could easily see them poaching another Brit currently sitting second in his teams averages. Dan’s due a testimonial next season with us (should have been this season but for his ban in ‘22) so you’d hope he’d remained an Ace for that reason but money talks. Maybe if The Aces ever get a chance of clinching the play off cup in front of a home crowd, then we could finally present a podium to be proud of though I have to thank Sheffield & Leicester for giving us a fine podium to celebrate our achievements recently.

No it hasn’t. If he is in another team’s declaration then he can guest whether he is an assessed average rider or not. Assessed riders cannot guest as per the rule book but who cares now anyway, it’s not as if any one is watching. BSF & BSPL advocate guests above team members which to me seem wrong.

Dan Bewley achieved the same with the Colts, Comets & Aces. Maybe only Daniels can do this. 🤣

Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good trolling. 🤣

Glad to see the witches win after a long wait with a few near misses thrown in recently, after a similar wait I know how you must be feeling. I’ve seen heat 13 which was very entertaining and all played out in front of a superb crowd, oh to recreate that on a regular basis. Looking forward to our meetings next season and hopefully the powers that be don’t dilute things too much and we get to appreciate our stars battling it out on track. It’s an even numbered year again so fingers crossed we keep our format going, 2022, 2024 & 2026?

011.4 Absent rider(s) 1 - 5 by MA G or RR at the Team Managers discretion Absent 6 – 7 Premiership League if not a Rising Star = G Hopefully Adam is fit enough to participate

He’ll be replaced by The Rock, The Caretaker or a Monster Truck as any serious sport should do.

https://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/23320/fim-speedway-belle-vue-2025

Interview with a troll. Ouch: I see Emil couldn’t be bothered on last night. Dimwit troll: Never mind Emil, what about Kurtz? Ouch: What about him? Dimwit troll: He didn’t bother trying in the semi final! Ouch: He had an off night, it happens. Dimwit troll: Off night! He didn’t even try. Four points from your number one, disgraceful. Ouch: Your number one scored four points. Dimwit troll: He had an off night. Ouch: He really did as Brady beat him twice supposedly without even trying. Dimwit troll: He wasn’t trying. Ouch: So our number ones can score four each but you decide that one wasn’t trying. Dimwit troll: Yes, got a problem with that, you saddo? Ouch: That’s illogical. Dimwit troll: Dan and Emil had off nights but Kurtz wasn’t trying, you should ask him for your money back. Ouch: And what about the cup? Dimwit troll: He had an off night. Ouch: Right ok, he rides bad at the same track in the same season and you decide one was an off night and one he wasn’t trying? Dimwit troll: Yes, he’s a wrong un! Ouch: That’s illogical. Anyway way would he not try? Dimwit troll: He was about to ride in the most important meeting of his career up to that point. To be honest, I don’t blame him for not trying. Ouch: Brady isn’t the type of rider not to try for his team. Dimwit troll: Rubbish, you’ll never convince me otherwise. All riders would do it. Mercenaries. Ouch: You do realise that only eleven months before the semi final Brady rode “in the most important meeting of his career up to that point”, the GP challenge. Dimwit troll: I didn’t know that but I can imagine his score, the disgrace. Ouch: He score a paid maximum for The Aces. Dimwit troll: Oh! Ouch: So why didn’t he score low due to not trying as you said any rider would do that but he didn’t. Dimwit troll: He didn’t try in the semi final but he did in the final last year. Ouch: You’re illogical. Dimwit troll: Don’t care what you say, you can shove your facts, you troll.

Interview with a troll. Ouch: I see Emil couldn’t be bothered on last night. Dimwit troll: Never mind Emil, what about Kurtz? Ouch: What about him? Dimwit troll: He didn’t bother trying in the semi final! Ouch: He had an off night, it happens. Dimwit troll: Off night! He didn’t even try. Four points from your number one, disgraceful. Ouch: Your number one scored four points. Dimwit troll: He had an off night. Ouch: He really did as Brady beat him twice supposedly without even trying. Dimwit troll: He wasn’t trying. Ouch: So our number ones can score four each but you decide that one wasn’t trying. Dimwit troll: Yes, got a problem with that, you saddo? Ouch: That’s illogical. Dimwit troll: Dan and Emil had off nights but Kurtz wasn’t trying, you should ask him for your money back. Ouch: And what about the cup? Dimwit troll: He had an off night. Ouch: Right ok, he rides bad at the same track in the same season and you decide one was an off night and one he wasn’t trying? Dimwit troll: Yes, he’s a wrong un! Ouch: That’s illogical. Anyway way would he not try? Dimwit troll: He was about to ride in the most important meeting of his career up to that point. To be honest, I don’t blame him for not trying. Ouch: Brady isn’t the type of rider not to try for his team. Dimwit troll: Rubbish, you’ll never convince me otherwise. All riders would do it. Mercenaries. Ouch: You do realise that only eleven months before the semi final Brady rode “in the most important meeting of his career up to that point”, the GP challenge. Dimwit troll: I didn’t know that but I can imagine his score, the disgrace. Ouch: He score a paid maximum for The Aces. Dimwit troll: Oh! Ouch: So why didn’t he score low due to not trying as you said any rider would do that but he didn’t. Dimwit troll: He didn’t try in the semi final but he did in the final last year. Ouch: You’re illogical. Dimwit troll: Don’t care what you say, you can shove your facts, you troll.

So after making up lies about Brady the Ipswich trolls then support their own team not bothering including one that couldn’t even be bothered to turn up. A clear indication of a troll is the elasticated morals and totally biased nonsense they trot out. Pick a lane and stick to it as you’d get more respect and appear less troll like if you didn’t yo-yo your opinions based on the riders involved. I presume you’re just looking for reaction all the time which in itself marks you out as a wrong ‘un. For all the true Witches fans I still hope you pull of the win that is needed after so so long but when I think of the riders, management and trolls I hope they lose big. Shame John Louis isn’t around as he would not put up with this. A true great that I had the good fortune to meet in the pits following the Superama at Hackney back in the 80’s. Top fella sadly missed.

Well done to Sheffield for topping the table. Best team in the league over the season and even more remarkable given the injury to Tai at the start of the season. You need commending for how you got on with the task of finishing top following that set back. No continued bleating about your misfortune or spouting what you would have won like some teams from down south where we’ve had to endure the same all this season as well being told they will take all before them. True class Sheffield and a lesson to those that are lacking in that department. Fingers crossed to more war of the roses encounters and seeing the bend two barmy army at the NSS again.

Hoping for an Ipswich win as it would be nice to spread things around the other teams. Sheffield 2023, Leicester the cup and a title for Ipswich would keep interest high at these clubs. We don’t want support waning again so that we see the witches dropping down a league, we can’t race ourselves in our league. Ipswich really need to win after all the talk at the beginning of the season, “best team since the ‘90’s” (they’re not), “We will go all season without defeat”, (they didn’t, not even at home) “a masterclass in team building” (it wasn’t as The Aces did it in 2023 but with a greater points boost). Hope it produces the kind of speedway you all enjoy though I won’t be watching (play offs not for me) and I’ve only junior speedway to watch now with two Colts meetings and the Ipswich U19 Grand Prix.

If there was a computer generated simulation that removed the race suits, helmet colours and surroundings, then fans both home and away would call out the excitement level presented. The thing is home fans think this kind of speedway is fine when it’s their home track and they are winning. This in turn makes promoters think they are doing a fine job and they not only do not look to create a racetrack, they search for more of the same. Being happy with a “race” that effectively last 7 seconds makes you a big part of the problem.

Sorry, I’m having trouble hearing you over the sound of the axe grinding.

And the KO cup in March where unbeknown to us he was saving himself for tonight. I’ve got that right haven’t I?

You cannot compared riders from different era’s and you cannot even compared results over the last few years as they are always peeing about with the points scoring system. 3,2,1,0 then add them all up.

Broken chain decides it. Dam Aces luck again.