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Or 2018 in the case of some and these will hang over into next season. 2018-2023 crazy but cartel backed. Also if it’s true about the last meeting not counting towards averages, what’s all that about aside from cartel supreme wanting it? A normal fixture ran during the season but not counting. That’s a difficult sell even for BSF.

££££Damien££££Bates££££ Bishbashbosh!!

Agree absolutely and the fact Belle Vue capitulated to Stars request to keep schtum is a disgrace. Are we part of the cartel now? Wonder what reciprocal back scratch we’re entitled to now. Grim.

I’m really not happy with the way Belle Vue have reverted to type and just lay down and had their belly tickled by the cartel. They should have made Robert ride or taken action if not but the old doctors note trick is played. Going along with the muzzling about his absence isn’t good but we’ve had a few telling offs for posting honesty on social media and I guess they didn’t want to feel the wrath of the BSPL/BSF cartel who went into overdrive when there was money to be (duped) made from the long suffering fans. With all clubs being able to make use of the Polish deal sorted earlier this year (and not just Belle Vue) I see several returning and Roberts low average will fit nicely at Lynn. On an equally low average confusingly is Jakobsen at 5.04. Had the rules been followed re rolling averages it would have increased considerably. TBH quite why he is allowed to use meetings from 2018 for his 2023 average is beyond me but the cartel get what the cartel want and bugger us, the rules and their rivals. Sad.

So you’re saying we’d have dropped Max for Robert if he had not sustained his multiple injuries?

If your referring to Robert, what do you think we pay World Pairs champion, GP gold medalist and GP regular Max Fricke, buttons?

Refreshing to hear several Sheffield fans on this and other threads detailing the lack of availability at Owlerton. Shame Bates couldn’t have been more honest pre season. At least now we know it’s impossible to get all top flight competitions completed at Sheffield and second division speedway is the only option for them as it affords greater scope for rider availability. I can’t see Bates putting the league through this again even with his immense self interest, the integrity of the sport should, you’d hope be uppermost in his mind.

Chalk & cheese promotions.

Both him and Robert won’t be lining up for this one if they are Kings Lynn bound next year.

Not one. If you include awarded heats I’ve seen then it’s 347.

I thought it was because Allen & Cook were long term injured at the time of their release. It’s since been said Cook rode elsewhere but even so the Allen move is allowed over and above the other two due to his injury. This was a great new rule, the problem was forgetting to remove the old August rule as there was no need for two rules restricting late season moves. Unless of course you wanted to give yourself wriggle room to try and restrict another team replace a badly injured team member.

Try removing your mittens.

When you substitute BSPL directors with Bates, Godfrey, Ford jr & Louis it’s even more chilling. Add in Chapman (still very much a spectre hanging over the sport) and CVS from recent years it’s easy to see why the sport is dead. You reap what you sow. So sad. Even more of a concern is those named above will control all next years top flight - bar one.

It doesn’t surprise me that you don’t have the intelligence to get to the rule book using the information provided let (sic). You’ve never read it before so why bother now. Probably didn’t feel the need with Terry about. Yuk!

ttp://www.scbgb.co.uk/regulations You should have tried using them instead of getting your mate Russell to use his influence with his chums. I’ve said for years folk like that are killing the sport and in your case it’s unfortunately very very true. Having dodgy sorts involved in the sport is dangerous as you never know when they’ll turn and you end up losing everything. Very sad and all for a few cups that meant nowt.

Legal, as was Heeps - see rule book.

Jake Allen?

The rule book states long term injury not season ending. When Allen and Cook were replaced by Sedgman and Kerr respectively they had both suffered long term injuries so the rule was followed correctly (they’d already used one move when replacing Stefan). As Bates obviously knew the rule having used it himself, the fact he tried to use his influence as a committee member to gain an unfair advantage as Sheffield promoter is just down right wrong. I’m glad the SCB got involved and put things right but it’s a sad state of affairs when a fellow promoter acts in such an underhand manner.

No. One right makes a right no matter how much it sticks in your craw. Rules is rules.

No, just the pathetic 14.

Yes, I’ll give you that. Robert did indeed get the full 15 against Ipswich whereas the last time they rode at the NSS, Max only got 14. Bloody Aces, strengthening up.

So how would you describe 2022 World Pairs Champion, Warsaw GP winner and 2023 GP contestant Max Fricke?

I love how BSF completely dispenses with fact and logic when assessing the two teams. Their success compared to ours has been listed but no, make stuff up instead. Sadly the way it seems on here. There is still time for Bates to try and pull another fast one as a cartel committee member. We could suffer another injury (just to cheer up the bloodthirsty BSF, always wondered who cheers a fallen rider you scumbags) and don’t forget the referee - free carvery for life?

My apologies. I thought we’d discussed this exact rule when it was first brokered earlier this year. I thought Dan had tweeted about being denied the chance to race in the UK. I thought the other teams had their squads sorted. Again, sorry for getting all that wrong. Enjoy your speedway.

Firstly welcome, it’s great to have newbies coming into the sport. Before your time, earlier this year this deal was discussed on here. Many had the same opinion as now about losing protected race nights being a bad thing. It all came out when Dan tweeted about being denied his chance by the BSPL. At the time of the tweet we were the only team still to declare.