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Surely this would not happen in s/way

Isn't that the whole point of the exercise and wrecked the EL format in the process

"If" Tai has used the system to further his career then fair enough but don'y expect everyone to be happy about it !!!

I agree that most riders have dim view of British s/way but they are not British w/champs as Tai is and if we are truly honest the whole issue is the money as always .I think that Tai should have done the British Championship and has been badly advised ,it is after all only two meetings and the PR this has now created is not going to endear him to his British supporters . If I am honest it is a great shame that the W/champ can't make time for his supposed home country but I accept that this look's to be the way the sport's going and I just hope he has no reason to regret it one day .

Could not agree more . No one questions his ability as a rider merely his constant moaning about his workload ,he's 25yrs old what effort is for Hancock to get on a bike never mind beat the best in the world think he's ahead of Tai for one of the best in the last 45 yrs for me.

Take your point great rider to watch but I for one am fed up with him moaning about his workload ,most riders would give their high teeth for the kit and backup he has never mind the rewards but there is always a price!!!

You must remember he is in his mid 20's now and all the demands on him racing in speedway some of us can only dream of plus his main opposition is only in his mid 40's ,being a great rider is not always a guarantee of being a great person . Why not just give him the title ,save bothering him in his prep tor the GP'S

I agree this great news I hope it is an excellent meeting and the club and stadium enjoy much success and I was there on Saturday but don't believe the club set out to" con" anyone .Once the teething problems are ironed out we will have a new stadium that every speedway supporter can be proud of IMO Chris Morton and Mr Gordon have pulled off a monor miracle in getting this track/stadium built to the impressive standard that I witnessed on Saturday .

It was a great pity what happened yesterday and I am sure that no one feels worse than Chris Morton ,I have seen him grow from the Ellesmere Port team of the early 70's into one of the greatest riders this country has ever produced .Upon retirement he has set out to create one of the best tracks this country has ever seen ,he has achieved that and what happened yesterday a tragic to say the least. I am not a track expert or rider and we have to accept that racing was unable to take place but I repeat what a fantastic venue for speedway and I will return in the future . Imo I think time was against them and they did their best to get it on sadly it backfired big style

iMO any rider wil jump at the chance of being a 1/10 sec faster a lap regardless of the cost of having new motor or parts but won't consider investing in something that may well protect him and the the sport longterm .That just about sums up this sport money can be found to go faster and equipement disgarded regardless of cost ( or threat of retiring) if they think it will give them an edge , someone needs to get hold of this and stop the lunatics running the asylum . Set down rules and stick to them if Tai and co don't like it stick to Olsen's circus and Poland etc, if the sport ends up with riders being semi- pro so be it . I think in a very short time a well run solvent form of s/way in this country would entice a lot of those mercenaries back which would once again enhance our sport.You have to hit rock bottom before you come back up and keeping cost down is a crucial part of any business even s/way. If the engines were kept in check then the riders would have to rely on skill ,experience and not who has the biggest wallet ,the "cream will always float to the top" in the end . Prehaps it is time for the GM to join the Jap,Jawa,Weslake ,Godden etc as "door stops" standardised motors may not seem it but could just be the future of the sport what ever form it takes.

So Holder and Tai are using 4or 5 yr old engines ( only joking ) when asking Peter Johns about speedway costs it like asking Turkeys to vote for Christmas it sounds a contrived interview that any politician would have been proud of .

Did all the riders moan and retire when the 4 valve engine consigned the 2 valve Jawa to the "bin" or the Jap before that I think not !!!!!

Would that mean an equal share out of Sky money rather than the chosen few deciding what happens with it !

I don't see this as a way to bring back the big names at all if you want that just pay them enough to come here which the league can't afford .This idea may work with riders who can't find places at start of the season because of averages and end up waiting for injuries to happen .There are lots of permutations here for using riders without the expense of squad systems or ones that can only/want to ride at a certain time in the season.

That sounds far too sensible for s/way

Spot on the problem is the cash available in the EL NOT what night you race on ,if you offer enough money they will drop riding else where so there would no longer be a clash of nights problem . Plus this could all happen and the El would still be in the same position it is now or worse !!!! Yes stand firm against fixed nights Also the economy may have had a part in it people don't have the disposable income they had in the past or are far more reluctant to spend it on things such as s/way. Unless money is injected to the sport I think sadly( which I don't want) we will end up with a 21 PL within a very short space of time and wonder if CVS &co have this at the back of their minds "if" fixed nights completely mess things up .

Nothing could be further from the truth I wish nothing but the best for this sport remain unconvinced fixed nights it will not effect the Pl, ( this is IMO) others have said that fixed nights would attract top riders back to the league i very much doubt this and remain of that opinion .I am am probable an old fan but would like think that I can still embrace change if I consider the actions being taken appropriate. What are the correct nights that will solve all the problems ?

It is NOT an explanation it is my opinion and yours differing nothing more we may both be right to some extent but it is my opinion that fixed nights will solve very little but I am happy to be proved wrong .We have limited information( I have non you may solid official info) as with most things in s/way a lot of it is shrouded in secrecy and we don't all the pieces to the puzzle .

So this will save speedway( in the UK) and all these riders have agreed to be in the league next season or will they have another reason for not wanting to race here such as Money offer them enough and you won't have to mess about with anything let's call it OPTION THREE

Indeed it is down to money !!!!!!!!!!!

So it's sounds well worth messing about with fixed race nights NOT Good for BV Imo this far more realistic to try and encourage a younger fan base

So it's sounds well worth messing about with fixed race nights

No what I am saying is there is a shortage of money within the sport ( I think we all agree on that one) and going to fixed race nights will not address that IMO and will destabilise the sport even more .As to Pl clubs( whose race nights seem suit there purpose but may well be struggling financially as well ) being effected I am under the impression that fixed nights is to help EL teams attract the"names " back to these shores .I am not an EL hater/ PL snob quite the contrary and accept that the sport needs a high level such as the EL but not at the expense of damaging the sport further .I repeat that these riders will ride any day of the week if the money is there as is proved with the GP lads dashing back to Poland on a Sunday afternoon .

We will just have to beg to differ

Many tracks can't change their race nights for various reasons particularly PL tracks which would have to do so to accommodate EL tracks hoping to attract the "big names " back .It has already been said that it's that money is the primary reason for them giving the EL a miss so untold damage could be done to multiple tracks and they would beggar off again once the last drop of money dried up