FAST GATER

What's new good, riddance to them lets move on and think about the EL and not worry what Olsen's puppets are doing

you should be so lucky maybe drop to the PL in another 10yrs or so

Hope so IMO third h/leader

Reminds me of PK at Wolves (although nearly 10yrs younger) not quite the riders they were but can still pull a some good scores together ,these riders just want to race and as long as they don't get hurt good luck to them.

Well said

Could still do a job in the PL if fit and able to avoid injuries

Retiring ?

FTR will be the" death " of this sport just can't believe they are continuing down this cul de sac but then we are talking about speedway here g@d help us all !!!!

Spot on The Draft system is about saving money not developing riders EL racing should feature EL riders in the old format

Quite agree

Sorry don't like fast track all about money not developing riders no place for it in the EL ruined the format IMO just hope they don't wreck the PL with it

Or you could say that a lot of the blame could be the impact of the GP series on the EL in this country,I really personally don't care if the GP boys are here or not ,there's a lot that can be done before we need to beg that lot to come here.Once we come to terms with that and move on looking at improving and protecting what we have got here and riders who WANT to ride in our leagues we will not be at the beck and call of these super stars.

Glad to hear he is

Has PK retired ?

True think were all waiting for the AGM them the debates and permutations on the team of 2016 will really start

IMO there is no getting away from the fact in this day and age the engine is everything whether you are a world champ with EVERYTHING at your disposal or a exceptional veteran with a lifetime of knowledge if the bikes not right then the heads not right .I watched Tai several times during that season and he looked like was trying but just had no faith in his machinery ,in PK's case he was trying his best to ride out of the "rut" and don't believe he is as bad as some make out and did up his average on last season .It is not a fair comparison I agree because PK has not got the access to the machinery Tai has( except for Greg who else has) never mind how old he is .

Excellent post have never liked this format purely about the money saving nothing else imagine coming up against Mauger, Briggs or Olsen 3 plus times a night without chance of having a heat to get things right sheer madness borne out by good riders being made to look bad this season .

Thanks thought it was strange him not being there

No PK tonight interesting ?

Sounds promising you would not notice the difference in the time

It would appear that a GM out of the box cant be used and needs work on it to make it usable don't ask me why but that's what I have read

they could actually do something and make rules to stop this but then that far to radical speedway and purge the sport of the dreaded tuners once and for all stem the income stream and they will disappear leaving the sport once and for all at league level

Spot on I hate the current format for the reasons you state how many FTS riders have gone into main body of their teams Lewis sadly retired and IMO was one of the better FT riders just money saving nothing else .

Some good points and I take on board the work load but have little sympathy IMO speedway is a short career 15 yrs being an average I would have thought therefore riders need to make hay while the sun shines .Many people would give their right arm fo half of what Tai has and if you don't like bullets don't become a "gun fighter" he did not fall into this sport but had been honed from a very early age .I am thrilled he has won a second title and truely hope many more will follow but don't moan or make excuses for the work as you are lucky enough to be paid for something you love doing which more than can be said for many of us .

For change to happen something has to "give" prehaps there maybe a maket for them in the PL with the understanding that the new engines must used say in the PL in 2yrs time and the present engines would be phased out with the EL following suit 1yr later .This would allow everyone to adjust and the financial loss would be small if any and give the rocket ship tuners time to find new jobs or fight over the GP business.