FAST GATER

I take your point but IMO anyone who rides a s/way bike flat out in race conditions has Track craft we just need them to use it in other ways and as a sport must not let the tail "wag the dog".

Maybe a cross section would be a better and more palatable solution to the problem with current/past promoters and riders plus other informed individuals such as Refs having an input on the running of the sport . We do need the views of current promoters to say what is the situation of the sport now and to allow informed dicisions to be made for the good of the sport not just on vested interests as would appear to happen now .If there was also input by non speedway parties as well this IMO would add balance to the whole process something that at the moment is sadly lacking .

Very well put I have always believed that speedway should be about rider's skills not the deepest pockets ,league racing should by and large have fixed costs thus everyone knowing where they stand .

Has to start from the NL upwards changes need to started at the bottom ,the arguement of the cost of changing machinery costing can't be allowed to log jam the process.IMO work up form NL to the PL and eventually the EL and just leave the GP boys to their devices if they want to waste thousands on rocket ships so be it

Why on earth should Greg retire he shows no signs of slowing down quite the contrary in fact but then it is the old issue with s/way his DOB ,he may be old and boring or just that good he makes it look easy depends on your point of view.

My sentiments exactly

Good point this country is obsessed with football at the expense of many other sports incuding s/way

Well said cut down on GP's and forget one night a week speedway not practical for start I am not bothered whether I watch a GP riders or a PL riders as long as there is close racing and of reasonable standard .

I think your spot on here with regard to Tai letting Greg win the final one bad GP( for Tai )and the pressure would be on ,can't knock anyone riding with their head and looking at the bigger picture .

Spot on my thoughts aswell

You are right I just want the racing to be about the riders not the tuners as much as possible .

I never said PK was a GP rider merely that he had throttle control that you say most of the other riders in the world except Tai and Greg appear not to have Tai was in a class of his own last night I would just like to see him against more equal tuned bikes other than Greg ,I want him to be Champ but by half wheel not half a lap.

More about who's engine and how it is prepared than the make I believe he tunes engines that are encased in a GM !

Mauger may of had good kit but he didnot end up half a lap ahead that is the engine not the rider skill IMO So there are ONLY two riders in the world that can use a throttle never seen Peter Karlsson ride sorry Phil you way off the mark here .If given the chance to ride such super quick bikes the the rest of the riders may actually do the same and use throttle control but GM's have to be ridden to the stop ( so I am informed )andthey hang off trying to keep up with the rocket ships.

Sadly I am worried that speedway will follow F1 in that there will be 2or 3 riders (on rocket ship bikes ) that have an unfair advantage over the rest ,I am not in anyway saying they are cheating .If you end up with the best riders on the the fastest bikes you end up as you did last night with several races where TAI went from last to first in the blink of an eye and Greg knowing if he gated he would not be past .IMO Tai is a great rider and a credit to the sport but i think that the bikes he rides makes look a little better than he really is,we are told almost no other rider could handle the power of his bikes which I find an insult to the other GP riders .

I suspect that he is in this position as club captain and one of the most respected riders in the sport who IMO gives a fair and honest account of the team's( incuding his own) performance when asked dont think there is any altera motive.

Must be PK as well

Very true Freddie has not pulled any trees up this season but look at Holder a different rider in the GP's yet very average in the league as was Tai last year just don't understand why .

Think it is a little harsh to blame Adams for everything that has happened this year , I found the meetings I attended entertaining and with some good racing which is what I go to speedway for .I understand that many are upset at being bottom of the league never mind not being in the play offs but accept for a couple of extra meetings and the chance of winning the league( which is worth nothing in monetary terms as I understand it except paying star riders huge sums to win it or not ) what else has been lost in reality .Wolves are secure as far as am aware including a three year lease which is more than can be said for many teams and in this day and age that is priceless .IMO the visiting teams last night were full of track specialists and I am still convinced that the format is harmful and has made teams look worse than they are ,imagine facing Ivan Mauger or Ole Olsen 3 or 4 times a meeting and that's what is happening now.

Thanks always feel that I am the only one that thinks this .

Still think this format gives heatleaders no restbite what so ever unlike in the past where there were easier heats thus allowing riders that little bit of confidence they need .The standard of races from heat leader to second string are sometimes huge and that's what we have seen this season .IMO Freddie will come back a better rider next season ( should he wish to and the promotion want him) every heat for him and the other h/leaders is like a heat 1 and lets face it Doyle is on fire and Harris has hit form . If your on a roll as a team this format makes you look great but the margin for looking avearage or downright poor is tiny.

PK last legs wash your mouth out no IMO he is well placed still able to test and give excellent feedback a wealth of experience just a pity Tai ( would he be ceditible enough)can't get onboard rather than plugging his blood sucking tuner on the GP last night .

Sorry I cant agree IMO I have no issue with riders stayng in the PL who achieve 8 plus average as you need a cross section of riders to make the sport worth watching.As to former EL riders dropping down agan I feel it is not an issue and they bring skill and experience which they are often willing to pass this on to the younger riders .

Not impressed at all and to have a go at PK one of the finest riders that has graced our tracks proves he hasn't got a clue!!!!

Just wondering if PK was using the GTR engine last night ,if so Harris seems to have more success on his !