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I doubt that very much Whisperer, it would be too far for him to travel.

Stuart is/was the money man, Jon was just a paid employee who was named as a promoter, most promoters do not put money into the club, their title is for administration purposes only, without an owner it really is goodbye to any thoughts of even a track share.

I am in a similar situation, I let it go! all I want now is for its history to be respected and left as is it, in the past, at Arena! Even if there was somewhere else in Essex to go to, I wouldn't want the club to carry on in that name, it should be a fresh start, new identity, the works.

Richard doesn't seem like the sort of person to go around throwing gestures, I think there is more to this than meets the eye and I also feel that maybe the vibe of the Hammers camp isn't anyway near as good as has been painted.

Both clubs could be fined for failing to complete their fixtures or the bond that each club pays before the season could be forfeited.

To say inherited makes it sound like we brought the place, we merely hired it for a few weeks and there is nothing to say they will allow us to hire it next season, even if we did want to use it, we have no track of our own, we do not own the rights to promote at any track that already has other parties with the licence.

Either way after tonight Lakeside will no longer exist, our run at Rye was temporary as a stop gap to get our fixtures completed, which we did. "They" however do not have licence to run speedway at Rye House, it is not down to them whether they do or not run there in the future, its down to other parties as to whether they wish to hire out the venue to another promotion (same with Kent or Eastbourne). Even if Stuart wishes to keep going next season, he must have learnt by now, you can't simply move a club and carry on, there isn't a club in history that has successfully moved venues other than those who have moved the odd mile or two. I would rather not lose the Hammers, but to me we lost them once we left our spiritual home of Arena Essex. Maybe we will see Stuart pop up somewhere else where there is a track without a promoter as a opposed to a promoter without a track.

It’s also been proven fans wont support NlL racing at Arena, never mind at another track.

I don't call it doom and gloom, I call it being realistic and not burying ones head in the sand and hoping everything will be ok, we have no track and evidence to say the club doesn't have enough support outside of the county, and that's with a good team.

Dread to think what the score will be tonight, Hammers have pretty much nothing to ride for so if they could not hit 30 last night then I think we could be looking at a record loss for a Hammers team in the modern era.

They were lucky most of the rain went West of them, and they were able to get heats on the board, a ten point lead is very respectable.

The clock is ticking, rain on its way, just for once they really need to stop sodding around and just get on with it.

They cant make up their minds, we have had 7pm starts, 8pm starts, 6pm starts, 2pm starts.

No chance I would say

My season ended with the last meeting at Lakeside, had it in mind to get to Rye House at least once or twice but I am glad I have not bothered, tonight will be no exception, its a big meeting but I would rather my lasting memory of the season would be of a happy night at Arena Essex than a long cold night at Rye probably watching very much from the gate racing. I can't think of what would happen if this meeting was to fall foul of the elements, there is no room for error now, despite the fact this is the best team we have had under the banner of the Hammers for many seasons, its largely been a ghastly season for the sport with endless weeks of having no meetings then when we do get one it takes what feels like a few weeks to get 15 heats completed.

Another thing is you could spend all season battering teams then encounter major problems at the end, win nothing but still have to decimate the side for the next season, ,meanwhile a team that scrapes 4th place and wins it, can go again the following season with pretty much the same side with just a minimal change to a reserve.

Like in the Speedway of Nations

Without Sky Tv we would never have had the play offs, it was a made for television idea because they wanted to keep the interest up for their television audience, they were more important than the fans that go in person or the sports legitimacy. But I have said it with the Elite League in the past, there is nothing to stop a bunch of Peterborough fans getting together to have a very nice trophy made that they could present to the club, they say in sports "the table doesn't lie" well Peterborough did finish top of the table and there is no law which says your not allowed to celebrate that.

Don't know where "you can't concede" came from but I am sure a season or two ago, Lakeside pulled out of a competition because of a lack of dates?

Yes im sure it probably didn't sit too well with Robins fans seeing the front cover of last weeks Star with their rider celebrating with Poole having won the league.

And I hope the Hammers are making this objection early enough to allow the Panthers to find a guest rider, as opposed to letting them turn up with Ulrich and then slapping a protest into the hands of the ref, like a certain club did with us earlier in the season even though they knew there was an error. Applying the rules doesn't mean it has to be done in an unsportsmanlike way.

Been mentioned on twitter there is a lot of talk about Ulrich riding after being sick on Sunday, Normally this would mean you can't ride for seven days but apparently this didn't count as the meeting was abandoned, however that rule did not apply to Richard Lawson earlier in the season when he missed a meeting which was also abandoned and was subsequently banned from riding for seven days. Where is the consistency?

This whole thing of only have 12 rider individuals started a few seasons ago and I have not attended an individual since, its a complete rip off what the promoters up and down this country have done.

Lakeside lost the advantage when they choose to go to Rye House, doesn't matter why a meeting never went the distance, either side is allowed to change the original line up subject to injuries and guest availability.

Glad to see this is going to be settled on the track like it should, doesn't matter why the previous meeting never went the distance, a full rerun is the order of the day, Hammers still go into it with a two point lead and if they are unable to finish the job against a "poor" Panthers team then there is no point facing Workington, no point scrapping into a final only to then be humiliated home and away.