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Spot on.

I didn't say he was totally in the wrong I said he's moaning a lot right now and saying he did NOTHING wrong Sunday isn't the complete truth in my eyes.. My take on the Crash was it was a racing incident, he went for a small gap, which he was entitled to and I was saying that he knew that carnage COULD ensue going for that small gap. Because your wheel if half a meter in front does not mean you have total disregard for a guy on the outside. That happens for to often these days in my opinion.

Doyle did not jump of did he. There was a collision at about 70 mph. Whether you're a Nicki or not - and I've said he had every right to go for that gap, read above - you cannot say Doyle jumped off thats ludicrous!

I would agree that Nicki is getting a rough ride (scuse the pun) on and off track right now however I do believe he's made his bed with all that stuff. In my memory he's had public and on going arguments with Hancock, Woffy, Emil, Hans A, THJ, Gollob, Holder, Zagar and there's probably more who I've forgotten about! I don't believe there's a Monster monopoly. Magic, Emil, Hampel, they are Red Bull riders they've not been treated badly or had reason for complaint. Nor have any of the other non Monster riders. I think it's difficult to say Nicki did NOTHING wrong in Poland on Sunday. He knew that was a tight gap he went for and there was a chance of carnage ensuing. It was his right to go for the gap but at the same time he would have know what could of happened..

Utopia Boss!

I've no doubt is was something else Sir. Keeping fingers crossed we see a GP at The Olympic Stadium one day!

100% agree with you. There are pluses and minuses for both one off world finals and for the GP's. I used to love the qualifying rounds going to KL and Coventry etc for the British, Commonwealth and Overseas finals. But I think some look back at one off World Finals through rose tinted specs. The Finals I can remember were: 89 - Rubbish 90 - Brilliant 91 - not great 92 - boring but over the moon Havvy won 93 - not bad 94 - not bad CustomHouseRegular I get where you're coming from and I would indeed have loved to seen a Wembely world final, but I disagree that Cardiff is nothing more then a glorified open meeting. Been to every single GP there and always come away thinking it was a good meeting. The boys definitely raise their game for Cardiff. Plus even though I'm a fellow (east) Londoner I think Cardiff is better venue to host a GP. Wembley would be much more expensive, harder for most of the country to get to and there is literally NOTHING to do around the stadium. What I do agree with though, is it is hideous that a rider can win a GP but not score the most points. Utterly ridiculous. Trying to explain that to new fans has been a right laugh!

How anyone is complaining about that GP I do not know. Cracking little stadium, great racing, bit of controversy that is the entertainment I am after when i sit down to watch a GP GPs 1 and 2 this year were a complete sht show but since then I think it's been a bloody good series.

Ah a rare time we agree my friend! There is so much that can be done to improve the product and therefore the crowd levels before we even talk about changing the format of the league and the racing. PA Systems a big thing. Presenter quality another, facilities another, time taken to complete meeting another, choice of music another. Darts and 20 20 haven't just drawn crowds because the game alone. It's the razzmatazz and slickness of production that goes with it. People know they are going there for a good time and a laugh they don't have to be hardcore fans to enjoy it,. With regards to live meetings 100% agree it should be all out to have a big crowd there. Tenner for adults kids for a quid anything along those lines. Get the crowds in make it look like a spectacle to those new arm chair viewers.

I'm not a huge Cricket fan but few years ago I met Robert Key who was at the time Kent Captain. He told me they make more money in a single 20 20 game then they do in the rest of the county season. The traditionalists hate 20 20 but the fact is it's been brilliant for the sport. Speedway can no longer say it was popular way back when so let's go back to the way it was. We need to come up with ideas on how to move it forward. Now all we need to do is come up with those ideas...

Well I guess the answer is leave it as it is then..

Not a huge Tatum fan but in his defense he does criticize when criticism is warranted..

But if it's one big league he'll get a lot of meetings in UK. 38+ league matches, KO Cup, Pairs, 4TT, PLRC, plus any other individual meetings etc. Also for a Danny King who MIGHT suffer, there's a Richie Worrall who will be better off. I'd also suggest 6 rider teams. 2 Heat Leaders 2 Second String 2 Res. another Cost cutting exercise as well as assuring teams can be filled.

An amalgamation of the 2 leagues with only the 'Elite of Elite' riders dropping out. However I keep getting shot down for that idea so I'm dropping it now lol

All I'm suggesting is a bigger league with higher quality riders and more variety for the fans (ie not seeing the same team at the track 4+ times a year) may go some way to improving things.

I don't know or have the time to look at the stats. I've thrown some names out there and I happen to think Holder is far better then Harris but if the stats say otherwise then again I'll hold my hands up.

Well it seems you see more EL matches then I do so I will hold my hands up and say Im wrong but from what Ive seen on Sky the big hitters tend to be winning pretty easy. My point with a stronger PL is that Harris, Nicholls, Hans A, are quality riders who would be #1s but could still be beaten by current PL #1's and some PL 2nd string where as if we go back to 1995 and merge the leagues but keep 'elite' riders it wouldnt work...

Well the Elite league big hitters still trounce the 2nd string riders as the gulf is so wide. In a stronger PL (Mid way between current PL and EL) would like to see riiders like Simon Lambert as a reserve as opposed to NL level riders... Again, I know my idea is way off perfect! I stand corrected, the EL is a great product on the up...

I understand what you are saying and I know my idea wasn't perfect by any stretch, But what I was suggesting was a stronger Premier league that would consist of say 20-22 teams so those who are currently doubling up still get their fair quota of racing - as well as the Richie Worrall's of the world who currently not getting a DU opportunity get more meetings. With regards to Nicholls Bomber etc wanting money that Holder Zagar etc currently get, well the Promoters need to stand strong. What are their other options? They aren't getting many opportunities in foreign leagues are they... I just think on big league would provide lower costs, more competitive racing, greater variation of opposition for the fans...

I personally would write off the Wards/Holders/Woffindens/Kildermans etc and just go for a one unified, strong, Premier League. Riders such as Bomber, Scotty Nic, even people like Hans Andersan could be heat leaders but there wouldn't be the extreme gulf in quality between Elite league #1's and reserves like there is now. Plus with little to no GP riders, Thu/Fri/Sat night tracks would be less disrupted and therefore likely to get bigger crowds. Costs will go down, Seems like a no Brainer to me. Yes it's nice to have the Best riders in the world In the UK, but whats the point when they are winning races by the length of the straight and are bankrupting their clubs...

Was not a particularly nice kid when he started out and thought he was going to be the next big thing. Seems he became a bit more humble over the course of his career... However was a good servant to British speedway and wish him well in his retirement

I apologize because you are indeed correct there.

Well that season was a stronger field then this years so I would say yes.

If those two were in the GPs instead of say THJ and (sorry mate) Bomber it's possibly be greatest ever GP line up.

Who is actually the best rider out of Emil Ward and Tai? This thread got me thinking...