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He needs to calm down a little, and learn to settle for second places, but I agree, he looks the pick of the current crop.

They might win some more if they occupy so many places.

The "sport " started as a circus con like the old boxing booths nothing has changed much over the years

I understand that, hope all is good mate

A touch of jealousy there

The late Nigel Sparshott's multi coloured triangle ones always stick in my memory

The way things are with the Poles being so strong as a nation, it is best, as you say, to have the wildcards. There is the possibility of six Polish riders in the GPs using SEC and U21 champions

I always thought that after the team Exide, with their back to back GP champions, that the FIM stopped multiple rider sponsors. Was it Rickardsson and Ulameck that were stopped ?

All the years I was a mechanic, we worked on a minimum 10pts with a win. Only ever needed 9 to win, oops!!!

Sounds like he was impressed, good news if British Speedway can gain some Polish fans midweek. They will need tense buttocks with the back staight bogs if they visit Swindon

I never realised the system was that flawed, that was an education

I apologise for that I was always lead to believe it wasn't possible.

A threat to team monster ????

It's not won in a night so it doesn't matter how many can win "on the night." Three of your 6 named ride for the same team so that cuts your list down to 4. Grachen try, speedway templates - Wikipedia, I will wait for your answer.

You need to sit down and work that out yourself, you needed to win a race under the old system. Come back I tell me I was right when you try it

The GPs have got stale, repetitive, not helped by the fact you don't need to win to be champion. It encourages bland boring riders, so Woffinden is top bore

For stating facts, they wouldn't do that would they hahaha

44 pages and still no reason to class Woffinden as the best ever. To come on here and be critical about past riders achievements doesn't prove that he is the best. He rides for the team that controls 25% of the GP line up, why shouldn't he win. I still find him boring and nothing in the last 44 pages would encourage me to cross the road to watch him

But paying fans still keep going, as long as they do nothing will change. The AGM with throw up the usual minor changes, some rules will be amended to stop certain promoters, others will be dropped to help the old boys club. Then on to March, as long as people pay, they got it right again.

To have the mental strength to overcome that first ride and win shows why he is a truly great rider. In the one off there was no meeting in two weeks time.

The GP championship can be won with out winning a single race 70 races x2 pts is 140 pts Woffindens total this year 139 pts

I don't have the stats for the first question, sorry. You couldn't win a one off final on 10 points with out winning a run off. So under the old system you needed to win a race unlike the GPs

1951 Jack Young 12 points 55 Peter Craven 13 pts 56 Ove Fundin 13 pts 72 Ivan May get 13 pts 73 Jerzy Szczakiel 13 pts 78 Ole Olsen 13 pts 85 Erik Gundersen 13 pts 90 Per Jonsson 13 pts 93 Sam Ermolenko 12 pts 94 Tony Rickardsson 12 pts

Strange way to put it, but injuries happen the timing was bad though.

There were one off finals won on 12 and 13 points it was never over after race 8