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Vissing rides in Poland so it would take a cracking deal from Glasgow for him to give up on that.

With the stance taking by Havelock over Kus and now Summers, you get the feeling that it could very well come back to bite him.

Karaoke done well can be quite nice, sadly most have a voice like a goose farting in the fog, doesn't stop us trying though.

With Jake Allen still awaiting his visa, and Berwick still awaiting final confirmation of the riders average, surely that is to many uncertainties to go ahead with the signing.

Be my guest, anyway as I`m not there just now they will be a village idiot short.

That would take all of five minutes do debate that particular subject.

Perfectly put, Barker is a good signing but as good as he is he needs back up but it seems Barker alone has one fan creaming themselves.

You could be right, though will some supporters see it like if Berwick start losing at home.

Now it is pretty clear that Allen is a seven, though most already knew, maybe that will speed up signing the remaining four or maybe five should the promotion pull the plug on Allen.

Its a gamble right enough, maybe signing Allen now might look like smart business in a season or two when he moves to an EL club and Berwick get a transfer fee that they can invest in the club.

Very probably, and the person who cared least would've been Peter himself, though to keep speedway going for as long as he did he should be at least given some credit for that.

Fascinating post of Mr Capital over reaction.

Absolutely, it what we specialise in on a Berwick thread. According to this weeks Speedway Star, Benji Compton is looking for a team place, surely a rider who rode for EL Champions Poole should come in for consideration.

As Allen has no racing history over here, his Australian scores are all anyone can go on, though I agree there is a world of difference from Aussie state titles to what he will face racing over here, if he is signed of course.

Wouldn't want to go back to Waite`s days, always look forward, however there is no doubt that Waite on occasion could pick a rider up from virtually nowhere and get the best out of that rider, before moving him on, also didn't suffer failing riders. Like I say no point in looking to by gone days other than to learn lessons from, we have a team to complete and a PL season to compete in.

So once Allen gets a true average, and Berwick look to make a change, Allen would stay in the team leaving another rider to pay with his job because of the under scoring Allen.

Going to Berwick isn't like lurching back in time, anyway isn't travelling part and parcel of being a speedway rider, for example Steve Worrall seemed to cope with all the Cradley, Swindon and Edinburgh meetings.

While you may be right, and I don't want any rider missing meetings, the attraction of signing the likes of Krcmar is that we could have a valuable asset on the books.

Your right I was just chucking names about, Franc is making a decent fist of things in the Longtrack GP`s so for him to give that up to fulfil all Berwick`s meetings is a non-starter I am afraid, but we need a rider with Franc`s scoring potential in the reserve position IMO.

If Allen is signed on a seven it would be unrealistic to expect him to ride to that average, therefore at least one and probably two riders would need to make up any loss in averages with Allen, and a high scoring reserve would be an ideal rider, something similar to what Jensen did in the early part of last season and Kus after. Thing is I don't see that rider being Alex Edberg so we might to look at someone like Adam Ellis or if it were possible to get him to start at reserve and Longtrack meetings allowing Josef Franc.

Going down the No1 route is fine, if you have one and probably two of the best reserves around, that is where they went wrong when putting that kind of team together. Last season the strength in depth approach worked, hopefully they will stick to what works, time will tell.

Not any more.

I am sure that would be the hope, but the likes of Fricke doesn't come along to often.

Can Berwick wait till then, and can any potential signing be keen to wait till then and risk being left on the side-lines should young Allen be assessed as a 7pt rider and face not getting a club. Don't know why we have to wait, seems fairly clear to me that all new Aussie riders are an assessed 7pt average.

Suffered a serious knee injury while racing at Sheffield towards the end of last season, its unlikely he will be racing anytime during 2015.