New era Panthers Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 51 minutes ago, 2ndbend said: Firstly I am of an age to remember when we had a team full of local riders. My mum first took me to Foxhall in 1976. Although I’ve been going to speedway for over 40 years I still remember the past but I don’t live in it. On here I read posts about how teams should be built and wonder if some posters know what is going on in speedway nowadays. On the positive side I believe the Witches will surprise a lot of you. I’ve compared the teams rider v rider and there is not a lot in it. The not a lot in it can be taken two ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 When it comes to local riders clubs need to do things for the future and then there will be some local riders available. However everyone looks to someone else to do it and then moans when the pickings are scarce. Why does Ipswich not run competitive second halves any more or a development league side? They will host a youth round this year because they were forced too (along with all top flight clubs). Who was the last local rider that Ipswich genuinely went out of their way to help out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 The under 19 meeting was a great meeting. More BSPA meetings should be at Foxhall. Plenty enough room for the visiting fans and even half full wpuld generate a good atmosphere 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: When it comes to local riders clubs need to do things for the future and then there will be some local riders available. However everyone looks to someone else to do it and then moans when the pickings are scarce. Why does Ipswich not run competitive second halves any more or a development league side? They will host a youth round this year because they were forced too (along with all top flight clubs). Who was the last local rider that Ipswich genuinely went out of their way to help out? Drew Kemp who has been riding pre meeting and second halves every week as a 14 year old Danny king has also been very helpful and worked with drew on setting up his clutch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: Drew Kemp who has been riding pre meeting and second halves every week as a 14 year old Danny king has also been very helpful and worked with drew on setting up his clutch. Certainly commendable but lets be honest Drew was already good as a 14 year old, if he was average / bit better than average would Ipswich have been so accommodating? Its not a jab at the Witches alone, the majority of clubs wash their hands of any level of responsibility towards the future of the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Certainly commendable but lets be honest Drew was already good as a 14 year old, if he was average / bit better than average would Ipswich have been so accommodating? Its not a jab at the Witches alone, the majority of clubs wash their hands of any level of responsibility towards the future of the sport. Last season Rye House Lakeside and Eastbourne regularly had 150 and 250 pre meeting racing. With 2 of those clubs gone who will continue this vital experience for these young boys. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 Biggest mistake British speedway made was to abolish compulsory junior teams. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiqueSteve Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/26/2019 at 11:28 PM, Susans1 said: Being a Ipswich fan myself I would ask aII of the people that it would be a good idea to stop all these negative posts regarding the team etc and save any negative posts until the season has started then we will all be in a better position to judge based on the teams performance. Totally agree with you ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma T Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 Well that's totally killed this thread well and truly ! Seems like there's nothing 'positive to say' here as there hasn't been a post since last Wednesday............................................................................ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 I think it reflects the lack of enthusiasm and interest in UK speedway at the moment. The last AGM, at an acknowledged "crisis" time in the sport here, took no positive actions whatsoever. Why then expect supporters to be upbeat for the future? Six weeks or so before the season starts the same problems that existed at the end of last season still continue to bedevil the UK. Other than a stranglehold gained on the PL by one promoter, there is little to report. The only "excitement" left is the lineup of the KL Stars team. And who is excited by that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susans1 Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 I think or hope that most speedway fans feel that changes need to be made to make the sport more interesting, how do people feel about having a transfer window half way through the season ( similar to football) that would certainly add a bit of extra interest to the sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Susans1 said: I think or hope that most speedway fans feel that changes need to be made to make the sport more interesting, how do people feel about having a transfer window half way through the season ( similar to football) that would certainly add a bit of extra interest to the sport. You're kidding right 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 Other than for Doyle, Fricke or Robert Lambert I can't see any bids coming forward if such a thing existed. Chequebook speedway long ago departed from speedway other than perhaps the maximum allowed by contactless cards (£29.99 ) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 14 hours ago, Emma T said: Well that's totally killed this thread well and truly ! Seems like there's nothing 'positive to say' here as there hasn't been a post since last Wednesday............................................................................ I think the biggest positive is its another season of speedway at Foxhall for those that want to go and watch it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Baldyman said: I think the biggest positive is its another season of speedway at Foxhall for those that want to go and watch it. Yep, could be a lot worse, could be in the situations of lakeside/Workington/rye house fans and have no speedway at all - instead we’ve got speedway, a team that will be competitive at home at least and top flight speedway which suits me, should be much more competitive racing! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, 89buttons said: Yep, could be a lot worse, could be in the situations of lakeside/Workington/rye house fans and have no speedway at all - instead we’ve got speedway, a team that will be competitive at home at least and top flight speedway which suits me, should be much more competitive racing! Not sure how it will be more competitive... 80% of the riders will be Championship riders so it will be as similarly competitive as it would be in the Championship surely? And a rider like Doyle, who is head and shoulders better than all but a few Championship riders, could make it even less competitive.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Not sure how it will be more competitive... 80% of the riders will be Championship riders so it will be as similarly competitive as it would be in the Championship surely? And a rider like Doyle, who is head and shoulders better than all but a few Championship riders, could make it even less competitive.. Of course it will be more competitive.Take a look at the Witches team from last year towards this years team 6 of them would be classed as Championship heat leaders all riding for the same team.The same with most other teams plus a good few higher classed riders as well so most races the witches fans will see this year would last year have been all heat leader clashes so it has to be a better class and more competitive season of speedway than last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 The racing can be as bad with a higher class of rider,,, the track plays a big part. The Nss is more or less guaranteed to have good racing,, Foxhall isnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, mikebv said: Not sure how it will be more competitive... 80% of the riders will be Championship riders so it will be as similarly competitive as it would be in the Championship surely? And a rider like Doyle, who is head and shoulders better than all but a few Championship riders, could make it even less competitive.. Having watched more and more higher quality riders drop down into the championship over the last few seasons I feel like the distance between the top riders and bottom riders level in championship is far greater than in the premiership and therefore the racing should be more competitive, especially as most teams have more of a strength in depth look to them - if Heeps/Allen make a good start in ht 4 (5&7’s race) for example they have every chance of beating an opposing heat leader and achieving heat advantages or at the very least closer races between all 4 riders! The drop in point limit for the championship has only exacerbated the situation - next year there’s several riders at reserve in the championship that have barely reached heat leader status in the national league yet, we’ve seen at Foxhall over the last couple of seasons it’s not an easy track for national league graduates, it’s set up grippy for home advantage, while the shape/size means you have to turn the bike quite hard at the same time, tricky skills that take time to develop and are particularly rigorous on the upper body so young lads of 16 barring some exceptional talents will struggle more with as they’re learning and getting stronger. Look at difficulties the likes of Connor mountain has had at Foxhall and he’s been a 9 point rider in the national league for several seasons now and is miles ahead currently of several of the lads stepping up this year yet teams still have Schlein/Harris Kenneth/Lawson nicholls/r.worrall at 1&5 how can you say races with two of these guys in accompanied by two 16years old 6pt national league riders are going to be as competitive as say Harris/Allen vs Andersen/barker....? It’s not! You’ll get two match races in one, with one half a lap ahead of the other. We’ve consistently seen fantastic races in ht13&15 the last couple of seasons when Danny/Rory come up against competitive pairings of a higher skill set and with the top flight we’ll have a lot closer matches races across all four riders in a race! Like chessell, Henry Adkins cannot beat Craig cook or Rory Schlein - maybe one day but not yet and won’t get there in 2019 cameron Heeps Jake Allen could and probably have beat some top boys in the premiership. its been a difficult winter as a witches fan and clearly teambuilding has been tough for Chris and things haven’t gone quite to plan, but I firmly believe we have a side assembled that can be competitive in all our home matches and the entertainment will be much improved than had we of gone into this season in the championship with the new reduced points limit. im hoping first and foremost we can have a season that steered clear of too many major injuries as we’ve had more than our fair share of rotten luck the past few seasons. just having a quick skim over the announced riders assuming Kerr and mpt are back at Lynn I make it 21/49 prem riders racing in championship so that’s more like 42.5% - I know you’re statement of 80% wasn’t calculated but I think this does illustrate there’s a much bigger difference in the two leagues this coming season with the lower points limit for the championship. Edited February 5, 2019 by 89buttons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 I certainly think the racing may be a bit more closely looking with the witches riders trying to chase dowm their opposition, but I think less passes will be made. So I'm not sure if that's classed as better racing or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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