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27 minutes ago, TTT said:

As for Basso it's no surprise to see him struggling now after everything that's gone on from Nicki's walkout all the way down to being asked to partner Richie Worrall in the engine room.

Richie can't win races consistently at this level, He even struggles to get 2nd places most weeks so expecting Basso to become a solid HL in his second Premiership season is just to much pressure for the young dane.

None of your riders win races consistently though.. Hans is the only rider to win more race wins than Worrall, and has has 5 more races. Not saying Worrall is great, he's a 6 point rider, but no one is doing great. On this seasons averages so far RW is 2nd, just behind NKI. I don't think you can single RW out imho.

 Hans  24 rides..  1st 5 ... 2nd 5... 3rd 9... 4th 4

Ben  23 rides..       1st 4... 2nd 6... 3rd 5... 4th 4

RW   19 rides..       1st 4... 2nd 5... 3d 7... 4th 3   

            

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4 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

None of your riders win races consistently though.. Hans is the only rider to win more race wins than Worrall, and has has 5 more races. Not saying Worrall is great, he's a 6 point rider, but no one is doing great. On this seasons averages so far RW is 2nd, just behind NKI. I don't think you can single RW out imho.

 Hans  24 rides..  1st 5 ... 2nd 5... 3rd 9... 4th 4

Ben  23 rides..       1st 4... 2nd 6... 3rd 5... 4th 4

RW   19 rides..       1st 4... 2nd 5... 3d 7... 4th 3   

            

I agree that we've got a lot of underperformers, I'm just saying that Basso needs to be partnered with a strong No.3 who can a couple of races per meeting.

With Richie 3 of his 4 wins came at Leicester where he's a track specialist other than that his scores aren't up to scratch for a No.3 which is no surprise considering he's a No.2/No.6 that's being asked to ride at No.3.

Need someone to do a job like Danny King at No.3 in order to take the pressure off Basso.

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54 minutes ago, TTT said:

As for Basso it's no surprise to see him struggling now after everything that's gone on from Nicki's walkout all the way down to being asked to partner Richie Worrall in the engine room.

Richie can't win races consistently at this level, He even struggles to get 2nd places most weeks so expecting Basso to become a solid HL in his second Premiership season is just to much pressure for the young dane.

That’s exactly what you and Flappy were predicting him to be this year at the start of the season. “One of the real big guns” wasn’t it? Now after a poor start you’re making excuses. 

41 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

You knew all this before the season started, so why sign him in the first place? Also Poole could move back up in 2024 so you wouldn't have him anyway. 

Oh I bet they’ll be devastated about that!

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3 minutes ago, Aries said:

That’s exactly what you and Flappy were predicting him to be this year at the start of the season. “One of the real big guns” wasn’t it? Now after a poor start you’re making excuses. 

I thought Ben would've been doing a lot better but it turns out Rob Lyon was on the money from Day 1 in regards to second season syndrome.

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4 minutes ago, Aries said:

That’s exactly what you and Flappy were predicting him to be this year at the start of the season. “One of the real big guns” wasn’t it? Now after a poor start you’re making excuses. 

Oh I bet they’ll be devastated about that!

Said when the team was being put together that Basso needed to be a second string riding with an experienced HL for him to progress further or he would go backwards 

Poole most likely wont need to move back up so to speak if its 1 league after losing 3 or 4  more tracks to closures

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I did expect Basso to kick on this season and so far I've been wrong. 

It still doesn't shy away from the fact that despite being told he shouldn't be a heat leader by Rob Lyon and others they went and panicked by signing Worrall so he had to be one.

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15 hours ago, 25yearfan said:

Peterborough like Busters other team King's Lynn look in poor shape, definitely them two for the bottom 2.

 

On the subject of the pending closure, I was glad Rob Lyon spoke up to mention he was dissapointed about the distinct lack of fight to keep the club going.

 

The Peterborough track and stadium is one of the best around in my opinion and more of a fight should be happening to retain it. I can't see why the track and stadium can't be included in the new leisure pans for the Showground especially since the indoor Arena is remaining and speedway has been a Peterborough and Cambridgeshire institution since 1970. Indeed I was listening to live coverage of Wolves V Panthers on BBC Radio Cambridgeshire tonight!

Just a thought here, so please don't quote me on it. 

Working in the construction industry I understand the importance placed on carbon reduction wherever possible. 

Maybe, as part of the proposed plans and if they get approved planning conditions are that the development has to be delivered to net zero carbon standards i.e air source heat pumps, pv panels etc etc. 

If they are seen to be promoting speedway for the proposed leisure plans this could jeopardise the planning conditions.

Im not saying speedway is the biggest offender in terms of carbon output but, it certainly isn't a tree hugging sport by any means. 

As I say guys, just a thought. I don't know the ins and outs of the proposed development but, I do know construction in 2023 and carbon neutral / net zero carbon is a big thing.

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14 minutes ago, Aries said:

That’s exactly what you and Flappy were predicting him to be this year at the start of the season. “One of the real big guns” wasn’t it? Now after a poor start you’re making excuses. 

Oh I bet they’ll be devastated about that!

Should be as he is only going to improve. As team managers have already said this season and neither of them were Middlo! Gavin Parr said the Cook's are 'going to explode this year' in regard to Champ obviously and Rob Lyon said he could see Ben Cook is going to do what Basso did last year. 

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34 minutes ago, TTT said:

I agree that we've got a lot of underperformers, I'm just saying that Basso needs to be partnered with a strong No.3 who can a couple of races per meeting.

With Richie 3 of his 4 wins came at Leicester where he's a track specialist other than that his scores aren't up to scratch for a No.3 which is no surprise considering he's a No.2/No.6 that's being asked to ride at No.3.

Need someone to do a job like Danny King at No.3 in order to take the pressure off Basso.

You could switch RW with Hans, that way Hans will be taking the flack ;) I know it isn't the answer btw. You have a team of No 2/6's apart from NKI.

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16 minutes ago, BassoRacingFan said:

KK would flourish around the Showground.

Lots of things would flourish at the Showground due the unusually rich vein of bullsh!t available there

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We have to be realistic.

Play-offs are gone now and we're not beating Ipswich in the cup because Emil, Doyle and King will put up 70+ points between them over the two legs considering the state our 1-7 is in.

Our season is now all about making sure we stop the losing streak by beating KL at least once because I can't see us beating anyone else with our 1-7.

 

Sign whoever Leicester release as our No.1 because it's the best we're going to get unfortunately even if does turn out be Harris (Just can't see Buster splashing out big cash now for an Ekstraliga rider)

Sign Rohan Tungate for Richie Worrall who will put in Heat Leader shifts at Home which will then take the pressure off Ben Basso.

Sign the here and now journey man Craig Cook as a replacement for Ben Cook who'll get us 8+ a meeting at reserve almost every week because theirs no point in continuing with the Ben Cook deal considering Ben is a rider who'll come good in the future, A future that the club doesn't have.

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4 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

You could switch RW with Hans, that way Hans will be taking the flack ;) I know it isn't the answer btw. You have a team of No 2/6's apart from NKI.

Hans has been good this season apart from his usual shocker at the NSS.

Where's Worrall has been crap every week apart from the visit to Beaumont Park where he's a track specialist, Take out the Leicester trip then Richie has only scored 15+1 from 13 rides.

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6 minutes ago, TTT said:

We have to be realistic.

Play-offs are gone now and we're not beating Ipswich in the cup because Emil, Doyle and King will put up 70+ points between them over the two legs considering the state our 1-7 is in.

Our season is now all about making sure we stop the losing streak by beating KL at least once because I can't see us beating anyone else with our 1-7.

 

Sign whoever Leicester release as our No.1 because it's the best we're going to get unfortunately even if does turn out be Harris (Just can't see Buster splashing out big cash now for an Ekstraliga rider)

Sign Rohan Tungate for Richie Worrall who will put in Heat Leader shifts at Home which will then take the pressure off Ben Basso.

Sign the here and now journey man Craig Cook as a replacement for Ben Cook who'll get us 8+ a meeting at reserve almost every week because theirs no point in continuing with the Ben Cook deal considering Ben is a rider who'll come good in the future, A future that the club doesn't have.

I don't think he's cheap, but would do a good job for you at home. Not if Lynn have to take RW to make you stronger though. Leicester might want him ?.

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