Berwick 2023.

[BackstaightBandit]

2 hours ago, screm said:

If Dick Barrie and/or Berwick Speedway believe that the very poor attendance at the recent Scunthorpe, Kent double header was down to people having a Kings coronation party, then they are not reading the room. I know plenty people who didn't go and not one of them said it was due to the coronation, more value for money and the price itself.

Coronation one of the biggest events this country has/will ever see for a long time so I think it will not be far off from the correct assessment. Seems a small minority are speaking vocally of poor value for money but those I spoke too thought the pricing model provided excellent value for money.

[Fromafar]

37 minutes ago, BackstaightBandit said:

It’s a team effort.

It is,but since George took on the day to day  news it’s always up too date.The other articles you can take them or leave them ,just ramblings IMO.

[Fromafar]

3 hours ago, BackstaightBandit said:

Coronation one of the biggest events this country has/will ever see for a long time so I think it will not be far off from the correct assessment. Seems a small minority are speaking vocally of poor value for money but those I spoke too thought the pricing model provided excellent value for money.

Bigger majority said nothing and stayed at home would be my assessment.

[szkocjasid]

5 hours ago, BackstaightBandit said:

Coronation one of the biggest events this country has/will ever see for a long time so I think it will not be far off from the correct assessment. Seems a small minority are speaking vocally of poor value for money but those I spoke too thought the pricing model provided excellent value for money.

It was the same price as a normal Champ & NL match, but they didn't get to see 30 heats. Can't call that excellent value for money myself!

[mikebv]

On 5/20/2023 at 10:06 PM, Fromafar said:

Bigger majority said nothing and stayed at home would be my assessment.

And they are the ones sny business should "listen" to...

If you are there then 30 races for 30  quid is VFM to you as you must be interested in all those 30 races..

The majority of fans at most tracks I would say would not see it as VFM as they simply will have no interest in standing around for circa 3 hours watching something that they are only interested in half of what's on offer..

The predictions on here of a poor crowd was hardly "mystical" was it? Common sense dictated that this would be the outcome...

Presume Berwick effectively "closed down" due to all the street parties that day? 

 

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3 hours ago, mikebv said:

And they are the ones sny business should "listen" to...

If you are there then 30 races for 30  quid is VFM to you as you must be interested in all those 30 races..

The majority of fans at most tracks I would say would not see it as VFM as they simply will have no interest in standing around for circa 3 hours watching something that they are only interested in half of what's on offer..

The predictions on here of a poor crowd was hardly "mystical" was it? Common sense dictated that this would be the outcome...

Presume Berwick effectively "closed down" due to all the street parties that day? 

 

According to Dick Barrie it was one long mardigra. 

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New averages are out, Berwick`s team average drops to 37-77. Former No1 Thomas Jorgensen drops a very impressive 2-5pts, his place is taken by Rory Schlein.

[szkocjasid]

15 hours ago, screm said:

New averages are out, Berwick`s team average drops to 37-77. Former No1 Thomas Jorgensen drops a very impressive 2-5pts, his place is taken by Rory Schlein.

All TJ has done is carried on his 2021 Championship form (as expected) he's never been a 9+ rider. Any blame should be placed in the promotion for "wasting" 2 points not him imo, however they can remedy that but signing a 4+ rider to replace the injured Stoneman.

Edited May 27, 2023 by szkocjasid

[Panthers99]

9 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

All TJ has done is carried on his 2021 Championship form (as expected) he's never been a 9+ rider. Any blame should be placed in the promotion for "wasting" 2 points not him imo, however they can remedy that but signing a 4+ rider to replace the injured Stoneman.

Agreed, hopefully the Berwick promotion knew come June they would to redeclare and planned for this.

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

How many meetings does Jonas have left until he goes up? 

[Normski]

29 minutes ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said:

How many meetings does Jonas have left until he goes up? 

Redcar on the 9th of June will be his 8th meeting

Edited May 27, 2023 by Normski

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

33 minutes ago, Normski said:

Redcar on the 9th of June will be his 8th meeting

And then a week after that his average will change?

[Jaizer]

1 hour ago, szkocjasid said:

All TJ has done is carried on his 2021 Championship form (as expected) he's never been a 9+ rider. Any blame should be placed in the promotion for "wasting" 2 points not him imo, however they can remedy that but signing a 4+ rider to replace the injured Stoneman.

As scunny found trying to replace Kennedy there aren't any 4 pointers around and I don't see signing proctor as a positive change since he became available. 

Is there a possibility replacing etheridge for a HL? Although only really Ellis and batch I can think of not signed to champ

[Gambo95]

37 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

As scunny found trying to replace Kennedy there aren't any 4 pointers around and I don't see signing proctor as a positive change since he became available. 

Is there a possibility replacing etheridge for a HL? Although only really Ellis and batch I can think of not signed to champ

Would Jonas's brother and another 5 pointer fit instead of a HL?

Might be a different option.

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2 hours ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said:

How many meetings does Jonas have left until he goes up? 

I think one.

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2 hours ago, Panthers99 said:

Agreed, hopefully the Berwick promotion knew come June they would to redeclare and planned for this.

Sorry, but I cant get into the mind set that the promotion would sign a team at the start of the season knowing they would need to make changes when the averages sorted themselves out. Signing Jorgensen on a falsely high average was the mistake.

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

1 hour ago, Gambo95 said:

Would Jonas's brother and another 5 pointer fit instead of a HL?

Might be a different option.

That seems the best option to me, hopefully the promotion are proactive

[Jaizer]

2 hours ago, screm said:

Sorry, but I cant get into the mind set that the promotion would sign a team at the start of the season knowing they would need to make changes when the averages sorted themselves out. Signing Jorgensen on a falsely high average was the mistake.

Isn't that what Peter Waite did way back when with ryml, franc and makovsky?

[szkocjasid]

4 hours ago, screm said:

Sorry, but I cant get into the mind set that the promotion would sign a team at the start of the season knowing they would need to make changes when the averages sorted themselves out. Signing Jorgensen on a falsely high average was the mistake.

Berwick basically signed a 7.5 rider on a 9.5 average. The only way to excuse that would be, 1) there were no 9.5 riders available to lead the team or 2) there were no 7.5 riders available leaving more room at the bottom end?

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

1 hour ago, szkocjasid said:

Berwick basically signed a 7.5 rider on a 9.5 average. The only way to excuse that would be, 1) there were no 9.5 riders available to lead the team or 2) there were no 7.5 riders available leaving more room at the bottom end?

Gary Flint had TJ lined up early doors, whilst trying to tie down Bomber to join him, before hearing about Rory and preferring that option, so he says. This is what we’re dealing with, he genuinely wanted TJ and reiterated his average wasn’t false and he’s a different rider now. He talked about it on a podcast.