ljriley90 Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, HGould said: It has all the hallmarks of a Soccer Team deep in relegation mire throwing silly money at a has been midfielder whose legs have gone in a vain attempt to stay up. Batchelor will get 10 or 11 for a few weeks they'll soon become 6 or 7 and no doubt he'll be on over a grand a meeting by fair means or foul in terms of a guarantee. Sam Hagon is worth a bash but we'll never own him and is he better than Pearson? Not really enthused reither way. Will it bring back the 300 to 400 more we need to be sustainable... Not a chance Would "any" signings bring in an extra 300 or 400 supporters though? From what ive read on here the speedway public in and around Birmingham just arent having the Brummies! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljriley90 Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 Does anyone know if Batchelor is already in the UK? Wouldnt he need a visa to ride which would take a few weeks to get signed off? Or was the Batchelor move already in motion when Rogers was in charge? Will he be available Wednesday? Personally i think Batchelor is a good signing. Did well with Kent and largely did ok for Ipswich at the tricky no.5 spot. Sedgman having a great year so keep at 5 and bring Batch in to the engine room with Bowtell. Its an improvement for sure! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Dog said: Yes. Can only imagine the uproar had Rogers brought in an Aussie that hasn't turned a wheel all year with more than a questionable attitude, and a development rider to push for the play offs.... But, fair play to Tolley for putting his money where his mouth is. Hope it pays off. I'm not saying they're 'great' signings....but at least he's having a go ! I don't want it to be about 'further/constant' criticism of Rogers, but there's no way he'd of released 'Pearson'? but releasing him is the only way that we could bring in someone of Batchelor's ability! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 53 minutes ago, the hobbit said: First thing we need to go now, is change the riding order : 1: Morris 2: Dan Thompson 3: Sedgemen 4: Bowtell 5: Batchelor 6: Hagon 7: Joe Thompson 1: Morris 2: Dan Thompson 3: Batchelor 4: Bowtell 5: Sedgemen 6: Hagon 7: Joe Thompson I think I'd go this route. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, ljriley90 said: Would "any" signings bring in an extra 300 or 400 supporters though? From what ive read on here the speedway public in and around Birmingham just arent having the Brummies! I don't disagree with the question. The better way may be to reduce admission to a tenner and family ticket to 20 quid, make it a school holiday splash and try to get a few hundred in that way. Invest in jazzing the show up I'd rather invest a few hundred in fireworks and entertainers and facepainters than Batchelor. Create a buzz and fans of the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 30 minutes ago, HGould said: It has all the hallmarks of a Soccer Team deep in relegation mire throwing silly money at a has been midfielder whose legs have gone in a vain attempt to stay up. Batchelor will get 10 or 11 for a few weeks they'll soon become 6 or 7 and no doubt he'll be on over a grand a meeting by fair means or foul in terms of a guarantee. Sam Hagon is worth a bash but we'll never own him and is he better than Pearson? Not really enthused reither way. Will it bring back the 300 to 400 more we need to be sustainable... Not a chance 1) Batchelor will score more than the rider he was replacing - doesn't matter that he's not the rider he once was, still an improvement 2) Hagon is similar to Pearson in the NL, but that's not the change to strengthen up, it was to allow a stronger heat leader. They didn't own Pearson so saying they'll never own Hagon is no change. 3) aside from Zmarzlik, probably no rider would put 300-400 on the gate, they've gotta try something though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, the hobbit said: First thing we need to go now, is change the riding order : 1: Morris 2: Dan Thompson 3: Sedgemen 4: Bowtell 5: Batchelor 6: Hagon 7: Joe Thompson 15 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: 1: Morris 2: Dan Thompson 3: Batchelor 4: Bowtell 5: Sedgemen 6: Hagon 7: Joe Thompson I think I'd go this route. I'll chip in with 1: Morris 2: Dan Thompson 3: H - Sedgemen / A - Batchelor 4: Bowtell 5: H - Batchelor / A - Sedgmen 6: Joe Thompson 7: Hagon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, ljriley90 said: Does anyone know if Batchelor is already in the UK? Wouldnt he need a visa to ride which would take a few weeks to get signed off? Or was the Batchelor move already in motion when Rogers was in charge? Will he be available Wednesday? Personally i think Batchelor is a good signing. Did well with Kent and largely did ok for Ipswich at the tricky no.5 spot. Sedgman having a great year so keep at 5 and bring Batch in to the engine room with Bowtell. Its an improvement for sure! Troy lives in the UK and has a UK passport, so no visa requirements. The move was not in motion prior to Stewart Dickson taking over, yes he will be available Wednesday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 Onus is on Joe Thompson now to at least out-score Sam Hagon, or else..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hobbit Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) Weakest reserve pairing in the league now. Joe Thompson has been very poor since signing., on current form, the only point they will score will be in heat two !! joe needs to rapidly improve or he will be out when the new averages come out on the 23rd. Same goes for Dan or he won’t be far behind Joe out of the door Edited June 19, 2023 by the hobbit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 hours ago, the hobbit said: First thing we need to go now, is change the riding order : 1: Morris 2: Dan Thompson 3: Sedgemen 4: Bowtell 5: Batchelor 6: Hagon 7: Joe Thompson Honestly... I think that team looks pretty strong now... Fair play Dickson, he kept to his word 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, the hobbit said: Weakest reserve pairing in the league now. Joe Thompson has been very poor since signing., on current form, the only point they will score will be in heat two !! Weaker than Turner and Trigger at Plymouth? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hobbit Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bojangles said: Weaker than Turner and Trigger at Plymouth? Not seen those two in the flesh yet this season so hard to judge but up to now, joe has been dreadful since signing snd young hagon isn’t there to score points, he’s there to free up the points to bring in Batchelor. I hope we stick with young hagon for the rest if the season now, even if he doesn’t trouble the scorers. Ablitt barely scored all season last year but he’s really coming on snd starting to blossom now. Let’s hope hagon gets the same patience. James. Pearson had been give more time snd opportunity st Birmingham then he would have had anywhere else. Yes, he has improved a bit this season but has not at any time achieved his assessed four point average snd did not look like doing so. 24 races this year. No heat wins, four seconds snd the rest, minor placings I snd most other Brummies fans really like James snd wanted to see him do well but, he ‘s the sacrificial lamb needed , in order to be able to bring in a heat leader. just emphasises the lack of the third heat leader in the original team at the start of the season 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, the hobbit said: Not seen those two in the flesh yet this season so hard to judge but up to now, joe has been dreadful since signing snd young hagon isn’t there to score points, he’s there to free up the points to bring in Batchelor. I hope we stick with young hagon for the rest if the season now, even if he doesn’t trouble the scorers. Ablitt barely scored all season last year but he’s really coming on snd starting to blossom now. Let’s hope hagon gets the same patience. James. Pearson had been give more time snd opportunity st Birmingham then he would have had anywhere else. Yes, he has improved a bit this season but has not at any time achieved his assessed four point average snd did not look like doing so. 24 races this year. No heat wins, four seconds snd the rest, minor placings I snd most other Brummies fans really like James snd wanted to see him do well but, he ‘s the sacrificial lamb needed , in order to be able to bring in a heat leader. just emphasises the lack of the third heat leader in the original team at the start of the season Saw Pearson in the flesh for the first time at Kent yesterday and am baffled how he doesn't score his average at CL. Certainly one of the better first time visitor performances, beating Morley on the way even if he wasn't awarded the win and certainly quicker than Hagon. Im guessing not enough wiggle room to have kept Pearson over Joe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 51 minutes ago, the hobbit said: Weakest reserve pairing in the league now. Joe Thompson has been very poor since signing., on current form, the only point they will score will be in heat two !! joe needs to rapidly improve or he will be out when the new averages come out on the 23rd. Same goes for Dan or he won’t be far behind Joe out of the door Some people say Poole have strongest reserves in the league, but Sam Hagon beat them both at Poole in separate races in the Poole Vs Swindon meeting. As long as Brum have a grippy outside line like Danny King likes, he should do well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 I would put Sedgie at 3, as so far this season he has come last in 6 of his rides in heats 13 and 15 (been dropped out of 15 a couple of times) , better at 3!. He did better at 3 last season !. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 hours ago, ljriley90 said: Does anyone know if Batchelor is already in the UK? Wouldnt he need a visa to ride which would take a few weeks to get signed off? Or was the Batchelor move already in motion when Rogers was in charge? Will he be available Wednesday? Personally i think Batchelor is a good signing. Did well with Kent and largely did ok for Ipswich at the tricky no.5 spot. Sedgman having a great year so keep at 5 and bring Batch in to the engine room with Bowtell. Its an improvement for sure! I think batch will be fine at home for you as he has had some good scores around perry barr and linking up with Morris again can only be a positive.Remember to bring in the fans you have to win at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hobbit Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Saw Pearson in the flesh for the first time at Kent yesterday and am baffled how he doesn't score his average at CL. Certainly one of the better first time visitor performances, beating Morley on the way even if he wasn't awarded the win and certainly quicker than Hagon. Im guessing not enough wiggle room to have kept Pearson over Joe? Correct. Just purely numbers, James leaving not Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hobbit Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Saw Pearson in the flesh for the first time at Kent yesterday and am baffled how he doesn't score his average at CL. Certainly one of the better first time visitor performances, beating Morley on the way even if he wasn't awarded the win and certainly quicker than Hagon. Im guessing not enough wiggle room to have kept Pearson over Joe? I went to Kent yesterday. I’ve never seen such sn unusual arrangement with different start snd finish lines. with the refs box in line with the start line, how does he judge close finishes like the one you referred to from yesterday? I was sat mid way between the start snd finish line snd I had absolutely no idea who had won that race so how on earth did the ref call it from even further back! Edited June 19, 2023 by the hobbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0310 Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 Well done Birmingham your owner said things will change he’s been proactive I hope it works out for him. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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