Belle Vue -V Sheffield POSFs

[szkocjasid]

3 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

He must of grown up since he was 31 i guess 

 

The fact that everyone is eager to believe the story without any evidence, should be a wake up call to Jack Holder to improve his attitude & actions, after all he is a professional sportsman, representing his sponsors / clubs / country.

Had this story been about Emil Sayfutdinov, I would not have believed it at all!

[Racin Jason 72]

2 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

The fact that everyone is eager to believe the story without any evidence, should be a wake up call to Jack Holder to improve his attitude & actions, after all he is a professional sportsman, representing his sponsors / clubs / country.

Had this story been about Emil Sayfutdinov, I would not have believed it at all!

Well the original post was from the child’s mother rather than hearsay.  
I always think there are 3 sides to every story with the truth being in the middle.  
if I was jack holder I’d invite the child and parents in question to Sheffield to watch the play off final and pay for them including a meal in the restaurant. All good publicity and doing the right thing. 

[AceBelle]

16 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said:

Well the original post was from the child’s mother rather than hearsay.  
I always think there are 3 sides to every story with the truth being in the middle.  
if I was jack holder I’d invite the child and parents in question to Sheffield to watch the play off final and pay for them including a meal in the restaurant. All good publicity and doing the right thing. 

there will be no one there empty staduim next thursday it will be 2nd leg at Leicester against Aces 🤣

Edited September 17, 2024 by AceBelle

[Chrisdonnelly]

6 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

He must of grown up since he was 31 i guess 

 

Wow thats some front. Possible small man syndrome? I think some of these aussies are forgetting they are 4ft nothing & 50kg p@#sed wet through. Would absolutly love to meet one in person

Edited September 17, 2024 by Chrisdonnelly
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[mikebv]

6 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

He must of grown up since he was 31 i guess 

 

What's the issue?

Lots of respect for Chris...

World Champions are a special breed...

Met him once on the Monster rig at the SON..

A very decent lad..

Ignore social media knobheads.... 

Life is too short...

And sometimes you come off worst..

Great to see him perform so well on Monday...

[DaveWayne]

37 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said:

Well the original post was from the child’s mother rather than hearsay.  
I always think there are 3 sides to every story with the truth being in the middle.  
if I was jack holder I’d invite the child and parents in question to Sheffield to watch the play off final and pay for them including a meal in the restaurant. All good publicity and doing the right thing. 

On facebook, that well known platform of truth and honesty !!

Everyone is taking her word as gospel and completely discounting Chris Holder's statement that it didn't happen. Is that because they know the woman personally and are confident she would only post the absolute truth ? Or is it because they dislike the Holder family and see an opportunity to jump on the bandwagon ?

I wonder how many of those backing her statement would do the same if she said it about Doyle or Nicholls ? 

[mikebv]

9 minutes ago, DaveWayne said:

On facebook, that well known platform of truth and honesty !!

Everyone is taking her word as gospel and completely discounting Chris Holder's statement that it didn't happen. Is that because they know the woman personally and are confident she would only post the absolute truth ? Or is it because they dislike the Holder family and see an opportunity to jump on the bandwagon ?

I wonder how many of those backing her statement would do the same if she said it about Doyle or Nicholls ? 

Booo Hooo...

I really would give it no thought whatsoever if I was Jack, or Chris...

Life moves on, and, guess what, there are a myriad of disappointments to face, so get over it, and quickly.....

If Jack Holder had done something to upset my kid which I felt was "out of order", he would have been told there and then...

I wouldn't have hidden behind a keyboard...

The world nowadays is far too easily offended...

Which, in a way, is great...

Because there are loads more who now take offence than there used to be to have a pop at......

[InTheDeepStuff]

Someone’s after a freebie 

[Cue Ball]

Sounds like the kid asked for Jack’s signed team sheet and got given Jack’s signed team sheet. Not sure what the problem is 🤔🤓

[JoeW436]

I find this Jack Holder thing quite cringeworthy really and the ladies post tagging pretty much anything that is Jack Holder related very odd. He’s clearly not everyone’s cup of tea and that’s completely fine.

[Manifesto]

All the hate will just make Jack ride faster 😁

[stevebrum]

6 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Surely a 6 point rider would be expected to score 7 at home & 5 away. So while 5 points wasn't a good performance how can one point off your average be "well below par" especially riding at number 5, meaning he meets Bewley & Kurtz twice?

Although play off Harris can often perform miracles which is why he is number one choice as guest.

It does make me giggle however because if Harris has scored double figures (and again on Thursday) he will be hailed as a super hero and almost expected of him yet when he has a poor meeting the excuses come out and point to the fact that he is only a 6 point rider these days.

As previously pointed out out he scored 7 on his last visit to the NSS and beat Bewley, Lidsey and Cook.

obviously he got a hatful in last years play offs. 
 

People seem to make excuses for him when he doesn’t score well which I find very odd.

[SUPERACE]

What a fantastic meeting this was, a great advert for our sport.  A big crowd, great atmosphere, top class racing, no controversial moments, banter between home and away fans, couldn't ask for more, it really felt like the big occasion it should.  I am happy with a 12 point lead as it gives the Aces a chance, Sheffield still slight favorites, but pulling back a lead of anything over 10 in play offs is not easy.

As for the Jack Holder, worky fan issue, too me its something about nothing.  The way I see it, without calling anyone a liar, Jack was asked for his teamsheet and could he sign it, he took the sheet down signed it then gave it to the child, why would he go to those efforts to then screw it up and throw it at the kid, it doesn't make sense.  The easy option for Jack would have been to ignore the request and walk away, now maybe he didn't smile when he passed it over, but this was within a number of minutes after he'd been 5-1'd in heat 15, so he was probably still a bit pissed off.

Anyway on to Thursday. 

[Odds On]

Why the hell should Jack Holder be offering someone a "freebie" who has publicly criticized him if he feels he hasn't done anything wrong?

[InTheDeepStuff]

Now here’s Jack’s side of the accusations, the people concerned might have made a mountain out of a molehill but gone very low aiming comments at family who were nothing to do with the initial incident.

 

@Sheffield Speedway 
Can’t believe I have to post this about the false allegations against me, Always 2 sides to every story, this have been made into a bigger issue then it has to be. So after heat 15 I had come into the pits, took my helmet off and there was a kid at the fence asking for the racecard which I gave to him through a chain wire fence, I turned back around to talk with my teammates, the kid then asked for me to sign the racecard which I did and then handed it back through the fence which had then ripped so I picked both pieces up and gave them back to the kid, who looked very happy! The dad then came to the fence and was abusing me. I asked him what the issue was and he stated that I threw the racecard at his son and his son was crying. I turned back around to my team to talk about the meeting but apparently tried to bring my team manager and my brother into the argument which is also false. How can I throw a program at a kid through a chain wire fence? This has to be very clear! There was no security called or anything like he claimed, Then after getting home from the meeting the father has even gone as far as  repeatedly commenting on my partner and my son’s photos with disgusting comments. Since the meeting he has gone on a rampage trying to spread false information all over social media. The way they have interpreted the interaction is so far from the truth it’s actually a joke. Also threatening my team manager Simon stead and laughing about it as it’s all over social media. So I am unsure if this is supposed to be a funny thing or a now serious thing.

[BluPanther]

😂

 

[mikebv]

20 minutes ago, 4BM said:

Now here’s Jack’s side of the accusations, the people concerned might have made a mountain out of a molehill but gone very low aiming comments at family who were nothing to do with the initial incident.

 

@Sheffield Speedway 
Can’t believe I have to post this about the false allegations against me, Always 2 sides to every story, this have been made into a bigger issue then it has to be. So after heat 15 I had come into the pits, took my helmet off and there was a kid at the fence asking for the racecard which I gave to him through a chain wire fence, I turned back around to talk with my teammates, the kid then asked for me to sign the racecard which I did and then handed it back through the fence which had then ripped so I picked both pieces up and gave them back to the kid, who looked very happy! The dad then came to the fence and was abusing me. I asked him what the issue was and he stated that I threw the racecard at his son and his son was crying. I turned back around to my team to talk about the meeting but apparently tried to bring my team manager and my brother into the argument which is also false. How can I throw a program at a kid through a chain wire fence? This has to be very clear! There was no security called or anything like he claimed, Then after getting home from the meeting the father has even gone as far as  repeatedly commenting on my partner and my son’s photos with disgusting comments. Since the meeting he has gone on a rampage trying to spread false information all over social media. The way they have interpreted the interaction is so far from the truth it’s actually a joke. Also threatening my team manager Simon stead and laughing about it as it’s all over social media. So I am unsure if this is supposed to be a funny thing or a now serious thing.

The dad sounds like a proper prat...

Best wishes to the kid as he grows up with that as his role model...

If you are peed off then tell Jack why to his face, and move on..

No need for a public outburst...

[JoeW436]

Like someone said earlier in the thread, definitely looking for a freebie via the cancel culture route. You bought a ticket, enjoyed the meeting as you stated but you aren’t owed anything else and nor are your kids. Glad Jack has set the record straight, ultimately he has more to lose than some Karen on Facebook looking for a freebie.

[SUPERACE]

Anyone whos been to Belle Vue will know exactly what Jack meant about the fence, its impossible to throw anything through it.   The parents are clearly trouble makers.

[Grachan]

1 hour ago, 4BM said:

Now here’s Jack’s side of the accusations, the people concerned might have made a mountain out of a molehill but gone very low aiming comments at family who were nothing to do with the initial incident.

 

@Sheffield Speedway 
Can’t believe I have to post this about the false allegations against me, Always 2 sides to every story, this have been made into a bigger issue then it has to be. So after heat 15 I had come into the pits, took my helmet off and there was a kid at the fence asking for the racecard which I gave to him through a chain wire fence, I turned back around to talk with my teammates, the kid then asked for me to sign the racecard which I did and then handed it back through the fence which had then ripped so I picked both pieces up and gave them back to the kid, who looked very happy! The dad then came to the fence and was abusing me. I asked him what the issue was and he stated that I threw the racecard at his son and his son was crying. I turned back around to my team to talk about the meeting but apparently tried to bring my team manager and my brother into the argument which is also false. How can I throw a program at a kid through a chain wire fence? This has to be very clear! There was no security called or anything like he claimed, Then after getting home from the meeting the father has even gone as far as  repeatedly commenting on my partner and my son’s photos with disgusting comments. Since the meeting he has gone on a rampage trying to spread false information all over social media. The way they have interpreted the interaction is so far from the truth it’s actually a joke. Also threatening my team manager Simon stead and laughing about it as it’s all over social media. So I am unsure if this is supposed to be a funny thing or a now serious thing.

Jack saying there exactly what I thought the first time I read about this. How can you throw a team sheet through a wire fence? Must have been one hell of a throw.