tellboy Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 17 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Get what you're both saying, the only issue is that this side doesn't have the strength in depth to run R/R. With Cook being the lowest average out of the main riding order and only being the 1 above able to take R/R (Kvech) & reserves, it'll be a dangerous tactic if (as has been happening) another in the top 5 flops. The makeup of this teams must have riders fill the top 5 spots. Guests at No6 is by far (right now) the option. If you put Cook at reserve though and you genuinely can't get anyone to guest you are definitely stuffed.At least if he is in the 1-5 you have R/R as last resort.We obviously want an adequate guest if one is available though.So if guests are available you can get the one you want regardless whether Cook is reserve or in the 1-5. Hopefully Brennan will fill the void against Oxford,after that though the pickings will be slimmer once Cook's average does go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 What are the chances of Lewis Kerr being a temporary or even a permanent replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaddlebowRoad Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 (edited) are we sure that the averages definitely change ie that weve ridden enough meetings have heard a theory that we havent Edited April 15 by SaddlebowRoad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 (edited) 18 minutes ago, SaddlebowRoad said: are we sure that the averages definitely change ie that weve ridden enough meetings have heard a theory that we havent I hope you are correct,that would mean another month of Bomber at reserve.I thought with rolling averages though that they do change,only ones with assessed averages,new to the league or those that have been absent for so long have to do six matches first to get a new average.Hope i am wrong. Edited April 15 by tellboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 13 minutes ago, SaddlebowRoad said: are we sure that the averages definitely change ie that weve ridden enough meetings have heard a theory that we havent If someone already has a CMA (over 6 meetings) then their average changes from the 1st of every month. It takes into account last years meetings also, and is based on the last 20 meetings raced. All of Lynn’s riders fulfil that criteria, so the averages will be be changed on 1st May up to and including meetings to the 21st April. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 7 minutes ago, StarBoy said: If someone already has a CMA (over 6 meetings) then their average changes from the 1st of every month. It takes into account last years meetings also, and is based on the last 20 meetings raced. All of Lynn’s riders fulfil that criteria, so the averages will be be changed on 1st May up to and including meetings to the 21st April. http://www.gbspeedway.com/2025/teamstats.php?mc1=x&mc2=f&mc3=av&mc4=King's Lynn Stars&team=King's Lynn Stars&league=A&comp=CMA&avtype=av Suggests Harris will be no 1 and Klindt drops down to reserve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, TTT said: What are the chances of Lewis Kerr being a temporary or even a permanent replacement? Won’t be if he gets the full time booking at Sheffield 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Do Lynn look at signing a replacement for Cook while he is out.If you make the change before the end of the month at least you can use his higher average before it goes down next month.Is there anyone willing to come.I see the recovery time varies on the broken bones he sustained from 6-12 weeks.Although speedway riders do like to get back earlier.If there was a decent replacement out there I would go for that until Cook was fit to return I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Guest replacement's are another issue in signing a "strength in depth" team... By signing the No1 rider in the league you have the whole league as possible replacements... Signing riders much further down the averages reduces the quality of any possible replacements... Cook was at No4 last year for the Aces... A massive jump to No1 considering only his position in the team has changed, not his average... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 21 minutes ago, tellboy said: Do Lynn look at signing a replacement for Cook while he is out.If you make the change before the end of the month at least you can use his higher average before it goes down next month.Is there anyone willing to come.I see the recovery time varies on the broken bones he sustained from 6-12 weeks.Although speedway riders do like to get back earlier.If there was a decent replacement out there I would go for that until Cook was fit to return I think. If there was somebody out there on the right average who could step in for a month or so then I'd say yes but it would need to be an 'oven ready' signing rather than a newcomer or one for the future. It would definitely save the ball ache of guests if he drops to reserve for May. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaddlebowRoad Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 basso? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 4 hours ago, mikebv said: Guest replacement's are another issue in signing a "strength in depth" team... By signing the No1 rider in the league you have the whole league as possible replacements... Signing riders much further down the averages reduces the quality of any possible replacements... Cook was at No4 last year for the Aces... A massive jump to No1 considering only his position in the team has changed, not his average... I’d argue it’s the complete opposite, it’s much harder to replace a number 1 with an average over 9 than it is a rider who has an average around 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 (edited) If there was a rider on a 7 point ave available to replace Cook, even temporarily, I'd go ahead & do it. But if not, I'd stick with guests or r/r. I wouldn't make a double change, can't see any top riders willing to come over. Edit: Lynn's total average will drop in May, they'd have 7.30 available to replace Cook. Edited April 16 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 4 hours ago, therefused said: I’d argue it’s the complete opposite, it’s much harder to replace a number 1 with an average over 9 than it is a rider who has an average around 6 You can get more replacements but not of the level you need as the team is still a "strength in depth" one... If Doyle is out, you can bring in the Holder's, Kurtz, Bewley, or Fricke, meaning your team is still strong... Bringing in one of a plethora of 6 pt men still leaves a team full of 6 pt men due to the *strength in depth" idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 4 hours ago, szkocjasid said: If there was a rider on a 7 point ave available to replace Cook, even temporarily, I'd go ahead & do it. But if not, I'd stick with guests or r/r. I wouldn't make a double change, can't see any top riders willing to come over. Edit: Lynn's total average will drop in May, they'd have 7.30 available to replace Cook. I wouldn't make a double change for sure.You have a good point that we will have that little more to play with come May.It all depends on the length of time Cook is out for I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 3 hours ago, mikebv said: You can get more replacements but not of the level you need as the team is still a "strength in depth" one... If Doyle is out, you can bring in the Holder's, Kurtz, Bewley, or Fricke, meaning your team is still strong... Bringing in one of a plethora of 6 pt men still leaves a team full of 6 pt men due to the *strength in depth" idea... Leaving a team of 6 pt men is what they are anyway.You won't all of a sudden think you deserve someone who rides as an 8 pointer.So it should be near enough like for like with a 6 pointer.With the likes of Doyle etc,if they are out you have a limited number that could fill his role,and not many of those top riders do many guest bookings nowadays.And who could fill his boots around Foxhall anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 54 minutes ago, tellboy said: Leaving a team of 6 pt men is what they are anyway.You won't all of a sudden think you deserve someone who rides as an 8 pointer.So it should be near enough like for like with a 6 pointer.With the likes of Doyle etc,if they are out you have a limited number that could fill his role,and not many of those top riders do many guest bookings nowadays.And who could fill his boots around Foxhall anyway. Correct. Doyle WAS out as we all know, and Nicholls was the regular guest. Every eligible rider was asked to guest but none of them fancied it. Bewley took one booking, but apparently needed some persuading. You’ll find the middle order riders much more willing to earn a little extra cash. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 On 4/12/2025 at 2:12 PM, ouch said: Yes that’s correct, so you hit 75% on 21/7/25. Belle Vue have the least amount of time again to make changes with our cut off being almost four weeks before Ipswich or Oxford. I’m sure over the course of the season the fact it rains every other day in Manchester will ensure belle vue reach the cut off around a similar time 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasta la vista Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 Cook out for 8 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 10 hours ago, hasta la vista said: Cook out for 8 weeks Ouchie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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