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Belle Vue Aces vs Oxford Spires 14th April 2025


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2 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said:

Sorry for my error 

No need to apologise for an error, to me it's the averages I would look at rather than team position, a rider could be a heat leader in one team, but a second string in another.

Normally you'd think a 3.11 rider to replace a 6.00 rider, there must be someone stronger available?

Other options for Oxford were Keynan Rew, Adam Ellis, Anders Rowe & Lewis Kerr?

I think Dan T could get loads of guest bookings till he gets a more realistic average.

 

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20 hours ago, AceBelle said:

Kurtz & Bewley are having  a stinker so far for Wroclaw 🙈 let's hope they are better tomorrow 🤔

A stinker?  It was away at Torun, Bewley was hindered by team mate Kowalski a few times.  Can't see a Spire likely to trouble them in this one TBH, 60+ for Belle Vue easily I'd imagine.

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15 minutes ago, Col said:

A stinker?  It was away at Torun, Bewley was hindered by team mate Kowalski a few times.  Can't see a Spire likely to trouble them in this one TBH, 60+ for Belle Vue easily I'd imagine.

4pts from 4 rides isn't what Wroclaw needed and 4 pts from 5 rides for kurtz is also not Wroclaw needed also dress it up which you want is a stinker 🤔

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These big wins by Belle Vue are not doing the sport any favours at all… I’m sure with more easy victories the fans will not go to watch and crowds will dwindle 

They didn’t even need their number one rider … they are not helping the league Belle Vue speedway is dying with results like this but when you can go out and spend money getting Kurtz Lidsey and Cook in over the years it’s just chequebook speedway 

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3 minutes ago, Gavan said:

These big wins by Belle Vue are not doing the sport any favours at all… I’m sure with more easy victories the fans will not go to watch and crowds will dwindle 

They didn’t even need their number one rider … they are not helping the league Belle Vue speedway is dying with results like this but when you can go out and spend money getting Kurtz Lidsey and Cook in over the years it’s just chequebook speedway 

Pyscasim is the lowest form of wit 🤔

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7 hours ago, AceBelle said:

4pts from 4 rides isn't what Wroclaw needed and 4 pts from 5 rides for kurtz is also not Wroclaw needed also dress it up which you want is a stinker 🤔

Second toughest match of the season, only away at Lublin beats it.  Not what you'd really want to start your Ekstealiga campaign.

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6 hours ago, Gavan said:

These big wins by Belle Vue are not doing the sport any favours at all… I’m sure with more easy victories the fans will not go to watch and crowds will dwindle 

They didn’t even need their number one rider … they are not helping the league Belle Vue speedway is dying with results like this but when you can go out and spend money getting Kurtz Lidsey and Cook in over the years it’s just chequebook speedway 

Spot on....

Especially following a team that has had regular success over the last few years...

It could get "boring" being so successful....

And another potential impact to crowds is having so many high profile non Aces meetings chosen to be held there due to the entertainment level the track provides.. 

Meaning their fans forking out for so many major international and domestic meetings to attend...

Plus of course being one of the very few top tier teams to run a development team season after season...

Much better maybe to run just one team, using talent that has been developed elsewhere,  and regularly coming close but ultimately failing to win the top prize, but bleating (every single season it appears), about being unlucky with injuries...?

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2 hours ago, mikebv said:

Spot on....

Especially following a team that has had regular success over the last few years...

It could get "boring" being so successful....

And another potential impact to crowds is having so many high profile non Aces meetings chosen to be held there due to the entertainment level the track provides.. 

Meaning their fans forking out for so many major international and domestic meetings to attend...

Plus of course being one of the very few top tier teams to run a development team season after season...

Much better maybe to run just one team, using talent that has been developed elsewhere,  and regularly coming close but ultimately failing to win the top prize, but bleating (every single season it appears), about being unlucky with injuries...?

:D

Wow, looks like I’m not needed here. What an excellent anti trolling rebuttal. Bit harsh about all the high profile events we have as they will (probably) have their junior GP as mentioned in Elvin’s BSPL AGM summary. 

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Hope Dan is ok and won’t be too troubled by his injury. Great to see The Aces step up so well and fill his pretty large boots. 

Run of the mill Aces win but with plenty of thrills along the way, more if you use the BSF term for exciting racing as many races saw positions change on bend two whilst jostling for space off the gate. 

Jaimon was the difference between win and bigger win with a sublime performance. I remember first meeting Jaimon when Mark brought him over to meet us after collecting him from the airport. He looked like a rabbit in the headlights. To see this score from the 4.00 rider we initially signed is so satisfying on many levels. Amazing stuff. 

I’m liking to look of many of the RS riders this year. Luke looked great as did Ashton last week and to see Dan do so well after graduating from the system, I think things are looking quite rosey for Team GB going forward.

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3 hours ago, mikebv said:

Spot on....

Especially following a team that has had regular success over the last few years...

It could get "boring" being so successful....

And another potential impact to crowds is having so many high profile non Aces meetings chosen to be held there due to the entertainment level the track provides.. 

Meaning their fans forking out for so many major international and domestic meetings to attend...

Plus of course being one of the very few top tier teams to run a development team season after season...

Much better maybe to run just one team, using talent that has been developed elsewhere,  and regularly coming close but ultimately failing to win the top prize, but bleating (every single season it appears), about being unlucky with injuries...?

:D

Yes we have really stole talent developed elsewhere like Danny King and Adam Ellis and have had no part to play in Dan T developing …. 
 

Can’t seem to remember any Ipswich fans bleating about injuries any seasons apart from the last one where to any knowledgeable speedway fan Ipswich would have been champions but that’s speedway you get unlucky at times 

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1 hour ago, ouch said:

Hope Dan is ok and won’t be too troubled by his injury. Great to see The Aces step up so well and fill his pretty large boots. 

Run of the mill Aces win but with plenty of thrills along the way, more if you use the BSF term for exciting racing as many races saw positions change on bend two whilst jostling for space off the gate. 

Jaimon was the difference between win and bigger win with a sublime performance. I remember first meeting Jaimon when Mark brought him over to meet us after collecting him from the airport. He looked like a rabbit in the headlights. To see this score from the 4.00 rider we initially signed is so satisfying on many levels. Amazing stuff. 

I’m liking to look of many of the RS riders this year. Luke looked great as did Ashton last week and to see Dan do so well after graduating from the system, I think things are looking quite rosey for Team GB going forward.

Belle Vue is the track with the most home track advantage in the league …. Riders set their bikes up to go quick and that’s it doesn’t take much skill to be able to do that 

Kurtz and Bewley are top riders wherever they ride but because of their home track advantage they are almost unbeatable at home 

Lidsey can only ride well at home and same with Blodorn….. no other team in the league would take a chance on either of those because they can’t ride anywhere else really … you bang on about Lidsey but he isn’t fit to lace Tom Brennan’s boots when you look at the overall package… give me a rider who can score anywhere rather than just be good at home 

You do have a good track but it doesn’t need much skill to ride it and I prefer skillful riders rather than throttle jockeys

Go watch Mark Loram v the Karlsson brothers on you tube and tell me that that isn’t class skilful speedway 

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20 minutes ago, Gavan said:

Belle Vue is the track with the most home track advantage in the league …. Riders set their bikes up to go quick and that’s it doesn’t take much skill to be able to do that 

Kurtz and Bewley are top riders wherever they ride but because of their home track advantage they are almost unbeatable at home 

Lidsey can only ride well at home and same with Blodorn….. no other team in the league would take a chance on either of those because they can’t ride anywhere else really … you bang on about Lidsey but he isn’t fit to lace Tom Brennan’s boots when you look at the overall package… give me a rider who can score anywhere rather than just be good at home 

You do have a good track but it doesn’t need much skill to ride it and I prefer skillful riders rather than throttle jockeys

Go watch Mark Loram v the Karlsson brothers on you tube and tell me that that isn’t class skilful speedway 

so you can dish it out but cant take it.

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4 hours ago, mikebv said:

Spot on....

Especially following a team that has had regular success over the last few years...

It could get "boring" being so successful....

And another potential impact to crowds is having so many high profile non Aces meetings chosen to be held there due to the entertainment level the track provides.. 

Meaning their fans forking out for so many major international and domestic meetings to attend...

Plus of course being one of the very few top tier teams to run a development team season after season...

Much better maybe to run just one team, using talent that has been developed elsewhere,  and regularly coming close but ultimately failing to win the top prize, but bleating (every single season it appears), about being unlucky with injuries...?

:D

The “Top Prize” which is utterly worthless and not worth winning according to you. Unless Belle Vue win it of course then you’re on here doing the Hokey Cokey 🙄

 

Your true colours showing backing your man with his trolling of one fan base. As I said before, you’re all cut from the same cloth. Horrible ‘kin lot. 

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